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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
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To: GST who wrote (148132)10/20/2004 8:32:10 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) of 281500
 
What do you mean by "foregoing our global leadership role"? Convincing many countries around the world to support our actions with money or their armed forces? Convincing a large part of the world to agree with or at least accept our actions even if they don't actually help? Getting UN resolutions passed? "our global leadership role" is not a very precise term.

The invasion and occupation of Iraq is not US-led

??!??

This is not about the niceties of international institutions, it is about the needless deaths of Americans -- it is about the needless cost to Americans

If you think the war was morally wrong or a bad idea for practical reasons and you wouldn't have had us go to war at all than I understand the idea of saving the "needless" deaths of Americans. But that has little to do with American leadership or lack of leadership its just being against the war.

If your not anti-war than I don't see how any form of "global leadership" would have made much difference. France, Germany, China and Russia were not going to send divisions in to Iraq to do the dieing for us. The Iraqi resistance isn't going to give up if the forces backing the Iraqi government start wearing blue helmets instead of US Army (or Marine) standard issue. 100,000 UN resolutions could be passed, none of which would change the facts on the ground. We win or lose by what happens in Iraq, and by how much Americans support or oppose the war, not by what happens at UN headquarters or in Chirac's cabinet meetings, or by what Germany or Russia, or China think about the war.

Tim
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