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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
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To: TimF who wrote (148448)10/21/2004 9:49:59 AM
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<If you think the war was morally wrong or a bad idea for practical reasons and you wouldn't have had us go to war at all than I understand the idea of saving the "needless" deaths of Americans. But that has little to do with American leadership or lack of leadership its just being against the war.

If your not anti-war than I don't see how any form of "global leadership" would have made much difference. France, Germany, China and Russia were not going to send divisions in to Iraq to do the dieing for us. The Iraqi resistance isn't going to give up if the forces backing the Iraqi government start wearing blue helmets instead of US Army (or Marine) standard issue. 100,000 UN resolutions could be passed, none of which would change the facts on the ground. We win or lose by what happens in Iraq, and by how much Americans support or oppose the war, not by what happens at UN headquarters or in Chirac's cabinet meetings, or by what Germany or Russia, or China think about the war.>

Our troops did not die in large numbers taking Iraq -- our losses have been concentrated in the ugly aftermath. There are plenty of countries that could have stepped in to provide what the people of Iraq needed post-invasion -- public services and basic security -- but Bush was so in love with himself that he wanted Iraq to be an American thing. We are paying the price for a lack of leadership on the part of Bush.
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