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Politics : Should God be replaced?

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To: Solon who wrote (18584)	11/13/2004 1:09:35 PM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (1) of 28931

"of course, you drop your first argument and you try to use another in its stead!" I did no such thing. I did equate the constitution with the Declaration of Independence which is not accurate, but Buckner's point about the DOI preceding the actual Constitution bolsters, rather than refutes the foundational argument. As far as the Deism vs explicitly Christian foundations; as I said; it is a debatable point but both systems are Theistic, a point which you choose to ignore because it completely defeats your contention that America is basically an A-Theistic Republic. <<<“Perhaps, but they also would have lost their main moral argument for revolution in the first place“>>> "That comment reflects an abysmal ignorance of American history. Certainly, religion of all stripes is a powerful ally in mustering the wills of people to sacrifice and risk life. But England had no shortage of religion or belief in God! LOL!" You comment completely misses the mark. I'm not laughing with you.... "Paine argued that Monarchy and succession of Rulers was antithetical to freedom. Without democratic freedom--power for ordinary people could come about only by graft and patronage…never by RIGHT." So in other words there can be no "freedom" without "Rights" but you have failed to demonstrate why freedom is a transcendent "RIGHT" in the first place. If it's not a "RIGHT" then the moral argument for revolution disappears and the revolter's simply become lawless thugs and common criminals. "The Stamp Act symbolized the subservience of a people and galvanized the increasing resentment against taxation without representation. The Revolution was a worldly event if there ever was one. It was not about Christianity in any way, shape, or form." The stamp act may have been unpopular but it was perfectly legal. I know you have to change the discussion from the transcendent moral foundation of the revolution to temporal causes, but you are arguing in a circle.

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