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To: Dan B. who wrote (14020)11/23/2004 12:45:57 PM
From: Michael Watkins  Read Replies (2) of 20773
 
Dan clearly you have not read the entire CIA report on WMD (I have, every word), and every release from the UNSCOM, UNMOVIC, and IAEA inspections groups (I have).

The CIA themselves state, categorically and without reservation, that Saddam's ability to attack anyone was severely reduced in 1991; continued to decline; and that Saddam himself ordered the destruction of his own WMD programes.

This is not supposition or opinion but basic fact.

>frankly with Al Quaeda there beheading folks now, I say what came first was 9/11/01, and Iraq is thus plainly a very good place to battle Al Qaeda. <

Al Qaeda was not a factor in Iraq until we invaded it.

>You speak further almost as though Aid workers not being able to go into a battle zone safely is some newly permanent condition we've created <

Yes, we started the war. Aid workers were able to help Iraqi people before the war, but not effectively afterwards. That was our doing.

> (of course, Al Qaaeda and Saddam's guys create the threat - again, this is not opinion, just attribution of acts to the doers). <

They may be attacking aid workers, but they were not active in Iraq until we destroyed Iraq's ability to police itself. Therefore its quite right to look at the lack of security in Iraq (number one issue for Iraqis according to OUR polls) as our fault. We created the conditions where security fell apart. Our fault, no one elses.

>Oh, and I do believe overall, electricity, water, schooling, etc., works better now in Iraq than prior to the war <

You are almost completely wrong on every count. Electricty is at 1/2 pre-war capacity, today. They can't even produce their own gasoline now, its imported from Jordan thanks to the anarchy in the country, which we created. Children can not go to schools in many areas due to lack of security. Schools with books but no children are not schools.

And water? US forces *intentionally* bombed water plants and sewage treatment facility to *intentionally* create disease in Iraq. (fully documented fact, not opinion) for over a decade. On Bush I, Clinton and Bush II watch. They haven't got water and sewage running properly yet. And this problem was one *we* created, not Al Qaeda.

>Hey...don't give me anecdotes...look at the overall honestly or be considered biased in this corner. <

That's the funniest thing I've read today. The only one offering anecdotes or opinion is you, sir.
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