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To: Brumar89 who wrote (14391)12/5/2004 12:08:15 AM
From: Sun Tzu  Read Replies (2) of 20773
 
>> How does the embargo Carter put on Iran fit into your thinking?

Simple. Iran feels the pressure from embargo, war, etc and is forced to make nice and release the hostages and stop calling US the Great Satan and so on. Why is this hard to see?

>> Next where is the evidence the Shah wanted an empire stretching to the Med?

That would take too long to explain. The short answer is that Shah was not planning to invade the countries you name. Rather he wanted to project power in more or less the same way that US does. He had already paid for some naval base rights in the Mediterranean and if you look at the planned purchases for the navy, it becomes quite obvious that he was trying to transform Iran from a land power to a sea power...but this really is not as related to the discussion as the fact that US did support the Islamic revolution (at least passively). It really is a matter of public record and not just form some newspaper or magazine but also from books and memoirs written by Shah, interviews with Brzezinski, former US ambassadors, etc. I just don't have the time to put together a bibliography for you. If you are interested, I am sure you can dig into this further.

>> This whole view of Carter-Brzezinski...if they were that smart and competent, getting the hostages released would have been a snap.

Yes. IF they were competent, they could have. But then again, if they were smart, they would not have gotten into that mess in the first place. But that does not mean they did not try. Anyway, do you have any evidence that Brzezinski is lying when he says he lured the Soviets into Afghanistan or when both Brzezinski and Haig say the gave the ok to Saddam to invade Iran?
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