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Politics : Should God be replaced?

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To: Greg or e who wrote (18934)12/10/2004 2:49:43 PM
From: Solon  Read Replies (2) of 28931
 
"As noted earlier Jefferson thought the bible was the ultimate expression of moral ideas"

I believe it was Jefferson who referred to the bible as a dung-hill. There was always a huge difference (as there is today) between what people said publicly to a religious audience and what they said privately when speaking most sincerely.

We were discussing your contention that the United States derived from religious egalitarian principles. The problem with your contention is that from thousands of Gods down through billions of followers doing "His" respective "good works"...most of the evidence shows an extreme prejudice and a perverted and primitive concept of justice--entirely unlike the egalitarian principles of the Constitution. You keep banging your head against the facts!

As I said: murdering tribes of people without regard to guilt or innocence, competency or insanity, child or adult...is as far from egalitarian principles of justice as a cow is from working at a burger joint. "That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights" is a philosophical justification for rebellion against Church and King whom believed nothing of the sort. Using "Nature's God" as a synonym for level playing field and a common ground is strategically wise in a religious society, but the complete lack of any specific or express reference to religious justification from any known religious texts or movements shows that it meant to overcome the inequities of the church and of the religious "justice" and "law" that had gone before.

Once the justification had been given and shielded with a vague reliance upon some amorphous "Nature's God", they proceeded in due course to write an entirely SECULAR Constitution--with "religious principles" of tribal and religious superiority and inequalities of persons ENTIRELY ABSENT!! In other words...they took justice and law away from the whim of the church and the Monarchy and they placed it in the hands of WE THE PEOPLE!

Not WE the Christians, or WE the religious, or WE the atheists, or WE the Muslims, or WE the Wiccans--but WE THE PEOPLE!

To pretend to see no significance in the Supreme Law of the land taking precise care and an abundance of caution to keep the Supreme book of justice free of every single iota of religious basis or reference, is to embarass the ostrich.
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