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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: Neocon who wrote (155216)1/4/2005 10:41:58 PM
From: Win Smith  Read Replies (1) of 281500
 
You can count on whatever you want, but the "precise intelligence" obtained to date doesn't exactly inspire confidence. Despite the best efforts of all the torture memo authors and the people they've enabled, of course. But the Economist article spoke to the intelligence issue too.


Mr Fahad, who claimed to have survived several assassination attempts and whose son had been kidnapped, refused to help the Americans on the grounds that he would be murdered if he did. When the American commander offered to protect him, he replied: “Thank you, but you are not always here. This is the first time I have ever seen you.” Whereupon the American troops labelled Mr Fahad a “bad guy”, and debated whether to detain him.

Instead, they detained 70 men from districts identified by their informant as “bad”. In near-freezing conditions, they sat hooded and bound in their pyjamas. They shivered uncontrollably. One wetted himself in fear. Most had been detained at random; several had been held because they had a Kalashnikov rifle, which is legal. The evidence against one man was some anti-American literature, a meat cleaver and a tin whistle. American intelligence officers moved through the ranks of detainees, raising their hoods to take mugshots: “One, two, three, jihaaad!” A middle-tier officer commented on the mission: “When we do this,” he said, “we lose.”


“One, two, three, jihaaad!”, they say. I imagine the local "Arab Mind" authorities would be impressed by the subtlety of that operation, but conventional reality types scratch their heads.
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