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Politics : Should God be replaced?
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To: one_less who wrote (19084)1/6/2005 9:48:32 AM
From: Solon  Read Replies (5) of 28931
 
In order to have ANY "present" moments we need to have events that are separated by space and movement, ergo: time. Change can only occur with time. Without movement there can be no events and thus no "time". With movement there MUST be time. Eternity is defined as time without end because it is clearly nonsensical to think of events without time. The idea of eternity requires past, present, and future; because if there is no before and after there can be no experience--because nothing can be recognized as having occurred, for the simple reason that under such conditions nothing has occurred.

The fact that we experience "present" moments has nothing to do with the argument. The fact is that the "moments" are separated in experience. Some moments are before others and some moments come after others. We know now that time is relational and bound to events in space. It is our experience of movement, change, and events which constitutes the apprehension of time. If we do not experience time, then we do not experience events. If such a universe existed in some other dimension, it could not include the experience of anything whatsoever. To make an analogy: If walking to the corner does not require any time, then I cannot walk to the corner--because in order to walk to the corner I must move through a series of events. One cannot be two places at the same time.

Thus, without time--no events can occur. Without movement relative to objects there is no time. So when the last electron comes to a stop in the universe (if it ever does)--time (which is either change--or our experience of change) STOPS.
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