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I sometimes slow, but I am no chicken<g>.
Unlike J, I usually do not read your post. I found them dry, boring, like sermon/preaching by a priest. The sole purpose of them is to defend how great the holy laissez-faire free market economy works, how they make people’s life all over the world much better, yada yada…. They sometimes are worse than some forms of propaganda. At least propaganda has some entertainment value, but not your post. Throughout all your post, there is a patronizing and condescending tone, which is really pathetic. Plus, I am not a faith-based person<g>, so just cannot take it.
This is why I only read the first 3 lines of your post the other day until last night after reading J’s post, which brought me back to yours. Only then I noticed that the rest of your post actually contributed to me and China. I do not want to be rude and ignore your post, so here is my reply.
Well the good news is that a free market price coordinated economy works so well that it's not necessary for most of the participants to understand why it works in order to receive it's benefits. This is very good, because, like you, most are completely ignorant of how it works!
Yeah, right, “a free market price coordinated economy” operates so well that it cannot even sustain another couple of generations. Wait until the coming waves of baby boomers’ retiring, and see how much damage this wonderful US system has done to their retirement fund; wait until the effect of global warming takes toll of many coastal cities, where the majority of the world wealth is concentrated; wait until the payback time for the sky-high US debt, domestic or foreign; wait until the greedy multi-national corporations sold most of the US out; wait until more and more high paying jobs switched to low paying service jobs; wait until more and more people in both developing and developed nations dead of cancer or other forms of diseases resulted from industrialization… The list can go on and on, but I have made my point.
Yes, I am not an economist, so maybe I am ignorant to how this so-called free market economy works. But I am NOT stupid. Go fanfare your free market doctrine as much as you want, and as hard as you want, I could not care less. The nature will take its course for whatever will happen. Neither you nor I can change it.
Even here in the US which hasn't suffered from 80 years of state supported Communist propaganda.
Which country were you talking about? There was only one nation on this planet which had 80 years of history of Communist. That was called ex-USSR. And Chinese Communist Party has been in power for only 55 years. And BTW, propaganda is not patented to Communist parties alone. The capitalist countries with holy market economy like US of A also is full of it. And at least Chinese realize that, and know how to read between the lines, while a lot of Americans (like you for example) do not even realize the US gov. operates on propaganda on daily basis too. What a pity! Propaganda is a tool for a state, whether it is a capitalist state with free market economic system, or it is a socialist state with planning economy. No state can survive without propaganda, period!
They see plenty of poverty and they think some mysterious force is at play, just like how the primitive peoples assigned various gods to explain natural forces.
Only a fool, or maybe a faith-based person too<g>, thinks poverty exists due to any mysterious force.
>>You look at Americans and see them as being somehow "other" than yourself, more greedy, less generous, consumptive, swallowing the world. <<
Oh, yeah? How do you know I “look at Americans and see them as being somehow "other" than” myself? Are you living in my head or in my stomach<g>? Why people like you all have such an humongous ego and all think they are such saviors for the whole world? As a matter of fact, plenty Americans I contact in daily life are nicer, kinder, more generous, and much less narcissistic than you are. BTW, I do supervise a group of native speakers in my job. No, they are not at all as greedy and as mean as you are. Even though they are not as “educated” as you are.
Your own country has learned this the hard way, after years of impoverishing their own people with their failed political theories. Now the cheapest resource on the planet is your own people's labor.
You are right, my own country learned the hard way, but China also learns some true experience, which is the “holy laissez-faire free market economy” is unsustainable, and it is self-destructive. “Years of impoverishing”? Says who, and by what standard? Look, China could not even make a nail or a match in 1949 when the New China was founded. Before 1950, nail was called “foreign nail” and match was called “foreign match”. And in a short 28 years bet. 1950 and 1978, China has established his own national industry. And China had basically solved the food and shelter and health care problem for all the people in cities and most of the people in rural areas. It is after the so-called open-door policy, after adopting the free market economy, China now becomes the slave factory of the world!
I can understand why you resent this, but your anger should be directed at those who kept you poor, not those who will bring you up!
“Those who will bring me up”?? Who will bring me up and who kept me poor? You are laughable and pathetic. I was not poor before I came to the US, and I am not rich now 15 years after I live in the US either. Only my parents brought me up, no one else.
These various anti-globalization moments simply strive to keep less developed nations at the same level of poverty they now exist in. This must seem OK for you since you have the luck and privilege to escape.
Nonsense! “Lucky and privileged”? just by being able to live in the US? You never fail to amuse me, don’t you? If I can get a job back in China now, I would have gone back in a heartbeat. You think I am lucky and privileged to live in the US? Who are you to judge my personal feeling? The God? Let me tell you this, not even the God can judge me, since I believe in no religion<g>!
Frankly, I find it rather selfish and inhuman to deny my own good fortune of living in a free market economy to others and I think most Americans would agree with me. This is why we have fairly liberal immigration policies and have dedicated ourselves to open trade agreements even at our own expense, even suffering those who rail against them with misplaced self-rightousness.
You are barking under a wrong tree. No one tries and no one could deny you anything. Go eat and consume all you can, including the share of your great-great-great grand children. It is the greed of the free market economy that will eventually deny you whatever you tries to keep. Although I do understand you are just trying to keep everything possible to yourself, including the shares that should belong to others. You give the greed of the capitalist a whole new meaning! |
