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To: arun gera who wrote (155715)	1/9/2005 4:36:02 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (2) of 281500

Arun, "Gassing his own people" is one of his alleged crimes. But Kurds aren't "his" people and when there are uprisings, all governments, including the USA [Kent State, David Koresh] kill as necessary to restore order, including bulk killing of anybody getting in their way. In the USA civil war [a more equivalent situation to Saddam's civil war against Kurds and Shiites] there was no doubt some civilian death. In collective war, governments also kill bulk civilians. Note what happened to Hiroshima - weapons of mass destruction no less. Now THAT was mass murder!! The problem is a lack of international law and olde style nationalistic territorial alpha male dominance hierarchy tribalism based on murder and other violence. Torture is a matter of degree. The Americans conducted torture, even to the extent of causing death. But deliberate terrorizing and cruelty are a continuous line, like pregnancy, and so the USA was just a little bit pregnant, not full term. Mqurice

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