There were indigenous in Palestine, punto ... i did not type your 'poor indigenous people crap', that's you mis-characterising again, i merely typed 'indigenous' ... though no doubt most if not all were indeed poor, certainly they were much poorer monetarily than the european zionists who came with hard currencies ... that they can be classified as 'people' seems not to be in question, so from this it follows that we may rest assured that they crap like the rest of us ... but it seems a little heavy-handed, doddering, superfluous, more your sort of thing, so me i'll just stick for the moment with 'indigenous', thank you
This statement of yours has to be untrue - 'To the extent that the Palestinians are really indigenous, they are descended from the Jews who used to live there.'
In the 1812 years from 70 AD to 1882 AD when the zionists started arriving, there had to be introduced to the area bloodlines other than those of lapsed jewry ... phoenicians [sp?], bedouins, and probably a few of every culture from Iberia to India ... people have always moved around, and when they do they tend to meet the local girls, this is just how things have always worked .... no doubt there is still a large component of the Lost Ten Tribes, and they say DNA evidence bears this out, that european jews and palestinian indigenous share much in common for genes ... which if true, makes you wonder about how jews from russian areas look kind of slav, jews from nordic areas tend to a fairer hue, and jews from Ethiopia appear distinctly darker - how does this happen, hmmm
The very name Palestine, tell us where that comes from, hmm ... were the philistines jews?
But suppose you could prove that palestinians derive solely from ancient jews - it wouldn't matter a whit to their indigenousicity, which is theirs forever due to generations spent continuously on that land between the Meditteranean and Arabian Seas
Time is what makes you indigenous, or not ... the Rothschilds who financed the start of all this trouble in 1882 were indigenous to northern Europe far more than anywhere else - the jews had left Palestine 1.8 millennia before that date, ahem
As for the we-were-there-before-them ploy, um i think the canaanites have a prior case, maybe you'd not like to be dredging up history quite so ancient
'Also, the Arabs are not indigenous to Palestine, they are are indigenous to Arabia.'
The term 'arab' is not racial or even necessarily cultural, it denotes the language spoken ... so what if arabic was found useful in a widening area, or its speakers wandered around and settled abroad, this is no sin ... me, i'm an healthy fraction of indigenous to the Americas, yet here i'm typing in english, there is no way in my view that this gives you the right to take my land and bulldoze my house and cut down my olive trees
You don't dispute that zionists killed far more indigenous than the indigenous killed zionists, in '1949' [you mean 1948 probably] .... so fine, but this has been the pattern all the way through, pick any year of the struggle right back to the first violence circa 1921, and always far more indigenous die than zionists
It would be a lot easier to respond to you if you didn't try to make so many of these useless little standard attempts at refutation in a single post .... it keeps things so shallow
There were indigenous in Palestine pre-1882, punto .... the zionists do not have clean hands on the terrorism question, punto ... it seems to me that you'd do better to accept these facts, since they are widely known anyway, and move on to work out ways of reducing the resultant tension .... cheers |
