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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: Neocon who wrote (156508)1/18/2005 5:03:35 PM
From: marcos  Read Replies (2) of 281500
 
That the turks conquered Palestine does not confer on zionists or anybody else the right of its conquest on a date so late as 1948
Jewish governance of the land ended in what, 6 AD or something ... jewish presence in significant numbers ended in what, mid second century or so
There probably was some continuous jewish presence all the way through, but this is not useful to your argument as the majority converted to the christian and/or islamic faiths

'Second' - the vast majority of population was arab-speaking muslim for a very long time prior to the first Rothschild colonies landing in 1882, turks did not move there in great numbers, and so the right of self determination is conferred upon mostly arabs, so sorry but that's where one man one vote gets you

'Third' - 'Yishuv' was a term that jews in Jerusalem and a few other places applied to themselves, after they had been invited back in by the turkish sultan acting as califa in what, mid sixteenth century or so ... these people absolutely opposed zionist policy, knowing its inevitable consequences, as you well know, and i don't think they'd have liked the term being appropriated

'Fourth' - there was massive zionist inmigration and smuggling of arms going on, a great many terrorist incidents, clearly there was an attempt to take the country - it is far from irrational to flee from such events, for those unable or unwilling to combat them .... it was seen as fight or flight, or, in your version, to trust the invader not to hurt you, well good luck on that ... so some arab leaders suggested flight for non-combatants - so what, this does not aid your case for their dispossession .... and there were, unquestionably, many documented cases of ethnic cleansing at gunpoint, tens of thousands in Lydda and Ramle alone

No i don't take the propaganda of either side as gospel, and it is an attempt at distortion for you to claim i do .... zionist actions can be readily condemned using solely zionist statements and zionist approved histories, when the independent observer applies a minimum of rudimentary logic from an human point of view

Bottom line, zionists crossed the sea to set up a Whackenstaat on predominantly muslim lands, and now there's trouble, well quelle surprise, wtf else do you expect
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