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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: marcos who wrote (156526)1/19/2005 2:53:15 AM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) of 281500
 
'Second' - the vast majority of population was arab-speaking muslim for a very long time prior to the first Rothschild colonies landing in 1882, turks did not move there in great numbers, and so the right of self determination is conferred upon mostly arabs, so sorry but that's where one man one vote gets you


Arabic speaking but not Muslim; Christians were a large minority, much larger than now (they've mostly been driven out by other Arabs, do they get a right of return?); so were Jews. Jerusalem was majority Jewish before 1882.

'Third' - 'Yishuv' was a term that jews in Jerusalem and a few other places applied to themselves, after they had been invited back in by the turkish sultan acting as califa in what, mid sixteenth century or so ... these people absolutely opposed zionist policy, knowing its inevitable consequences, as you well know, and i don't think they'd have liked the term being appropriated

Wrong. Yishuv - "dwelling or settlement" is what the Zionists called their community.

'Fourth' - there was massive zionist inmigration

...and even more massive Arab immigration. You keep maitaining that the Arabs had every right to move in and the Jews had no right to move in, why? It's not as if there were no Jews there before or Jews had nothing to do with place.

great many terrorist incidents

...about 99% of which were done by the Arabs, by the Mufti's men, with both Jews and Arabs as their victims, a point you perpetually ignore. Was the Mufti entitled to terrorism?

and there were, unquestionably, many documented cases of ethnic cleansing at gunpoint, tens of thousands in Lydda and Ramle alone

...adding up in totality to less than 10% of those who fled. All the upper classes fled before the serious fighting; so did the Arab populations of Haifa and Jaffa; most of the rest panicked when the Haganah showed up instead of the promised Arab victory. Most refugees didn't even see a Jewish soldier.
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