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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices
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To: Elroy who wrote (217623)2/7/2005 5:52:17 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (3) of 1574854
 
Well some of the land has been "annexed" and that's where the settlements are.

I'd have to double check to be sure but I'm pretty sure the settlements have not formerly been annexed. The term would be occupied, not annexed.

East Jerusalem was annexed.

IF Israel was a real democracy (one man, one vote) then why shouldn't they accept the population in the lands that they control (Gaza and West Bank) as equally able to vote as the Israelis themselves?

We didn't let the Iraqis vote in the US election when their country was administered by our army. Of course that was for a much shorter period of time then the West Bank and Gaza have been controlled by Israel, but the principle is the same. If you annex land you are saying it is part of your country, and if its part of your country then not letting the people who live there vote does make the government less democratic. If it is occupied land the occupation itself isn't democratic in nature, but it doesn't reflect on the democracy of the occupier.

The way the occupation is carried out is the moral responsibility of the occupier but even if you think it is carried out in a particularly brutal and heinous way, brutal an heinous do not equal undemocratic. Undemocratic regimes are more likely to be brutal an heinous but one does not equal the other. Democracies can be brutal. Non elected governments can be less than brutal.

So you can use the occupation to call Israel brutal (although I think most countries would be more brutal in the same situation) it doesn't make them undemocratic.

Tim
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