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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices

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To: tejek who wrote (218020)2/8/2005 2:11:12 AM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (1) of 1578513
 
"For you maybe in TX;"

Male bovine excrement. I'm talking national, not local. Here is a phrase, "October Surprise".

"What do you see as the stick?"

Here is one. For most of the 19th and 20th century, the label "liberal" had few, if any, negative connotations. It does now. Not only in the US, although the negative aspects started here, but it is becoming global. When you let your opponent define you, you lose. Politics 101.

"No one suggested that politics was dodgeball but the GOP is playing war games, not competitive politics."

Oh duh. That has been the way the game has been played in the US for centuries. What about "Ma, Ma, where's my Pa"? We have he equivalent of the opposition paying waifs to show up at speeches and claim that they are the illegimate offspring of the candidate. That has been the historical norm in American politics, it has only been in the post WWII period that there has been any pretense that it was different. The Dims want to pretend that it is all about issues. And it should be. But if one side is playing issues and the other is playing smear, issues will lose everytime. Why do you think Fox News is so popular? Clue: it isn't because they actually report news. And this isn't because civilization has declined, this is the norm.

"And do you think that it was by chance the Superbowl had a military theme to it? "

I don't watch TV much, and I damned sure don't watch the Superbowl. But that doesn't surprise me. The neocons aren't the first to play to jingoism. When Reagan was elected for the first time, eagles started to fly in all of the electronics trade magazines.

"On this I agree, but how do you confront an enemy that believes anything goes; that uses lies as if they were truths."

You confront lies with truth. You don't allow them to squirm, you hammer at their weaknesses at every opportunity. If you abandon the truth, like Kerry did, you lose. You then make their lies equivalent to the truth. And then it become who appears the most sincere. Unfortunately, liars can appear to be very sincere. However, they can't document their lies, and that is where they can fail. Failing to demand documentation at every turn is a losing strategy.

"You, yourself, have said that you thought Rove capable of setting up Dan Rather. That speaks volumes. "

Sure I did. And the fact that it happened, despite the fact that anyone who knows anything about the history, speaks volumes. When someone has a long history of being a cut throat is treated like a rational and reasonable human being, that shows a significant amount of denial of reality. Instead of dealing with reality, the Dims play "let's pretend".
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