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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!!

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To: Bill who wrote (96084)2/17/2005 6:43:09 PM
From: Grainne  Read Replies (1) of 108807
 
You know, I think this thing where you are trying to smear Dr. Campbell is just ridiculous. It reminds me of the attempt by the far right to paint the whole animal rights/healthy foods movement as aligned with Hitler. It is really a malignant thing you are trying to do. I went and saw Dr. Campbell lecture at a HOSPITAL!!! His presentation was sponsored by the wellness department, a bunch of medical doctors. I dare you to read the book and then try to smear him after you have looked at the actual research.

Your website is all wet. First of all, Campbell gives substantial proof that milk causes early-onset puberty in young girls. He presents charts from scientific research studies showing that in countries where a lot of milk is consumed, America for example, puberty is at 11.5-12 years of age. In parts of China, and in other areas where milk is not consumed, puberty onset is in the mid-to-late teens. There is a direct correlation in all the countries of the world between milk consumption and menses onset. I looked at the graph myself, and I’m sure it is in his book. The onset of puberty is important because milk consumption causes estrogen levels in women to rise, and estrogen exposure grows cancers.

I find it really bizarre that the moment I write a post about an interesting lecture I went to, you pop up with ultra rightwing websites trying to smear Dr. Campbell. These are not scientific websites, they are shills for Monsanto, the American meat and dairy industry, etc.—all the industries that profit from meat and dairy consumption. I thought you were intelligent enough to reason that if someone who grew up on a dairy farm and did his early research trying to increase the protein in milk and meat because he believed as many doctors did that more protein was good in the diet, radically changed his mind about that after being involved in international studies sponsored by a multitude of governments and their scientists as well, that perhaps he changed his mind based on the research findings.

People don’t become vegan so they can make a lot of money selling natural foods! There is nothing immoral, though, about selling natural foods, or dioxin testing equipment, either. When I worked with vascular surgeons, one of them was developing a stent to repair abdominal aortic aneurysms. Now it would be wrong if he used that device unethically, say implanting it in someone who was not ill. But it is natural that medical and research doctors are the people who develop devices and products related to their research. Are you alleging that the meat and dairy industry makes no profits from selling its products? Your are full of moral inequivalency here.

The real problem is that vegans don’t consume any products that the dairy and meat industry sell. That is why these really evil websites like the one you are using pop up. Vegans buy soy milk and Boca burgers on occasion, but mostly they buy organic produce grown using sustainable agricultural techniques from their local regions. Your side is paralyzed with fear because the organic/vegan movement is growing, and now the science is backing them up and it is being published.
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