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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (158897)3/8/2005 8:07:30 PM
From: Sam  Read Replies (1) of 281500
 
Yes, but Japan did have a very long history of social cohesion and obedience to their government and social structure. They weren't colonized like the Arab countries were, they weren't fractured like the Arabs were after the Ottoman Empire was dismantled by the British, and they didn't have artificial geopolitical boundaries put upon them. Nor did they have govts essentially imposed upon them, as the British did, when they rewarded their friends after WWI (not that I'm trying to idealize the Ottomans, but the British motives for dismantling them were surely suspect, as even you must admit--and Attaturk did a pretty good job guiding Turkey). Not that these "friends" of the British returned the favor just a few decades later in WWII, but nevermind that--that's what gratitude in politics amounts to. And another reason why I'm afraid that my long term expectations for this "flowering of democracy" aren't particularly high.

And also why I was opposed to this invasion to begin with, and I will have to wait for years before believing that I was/am wrong to believe that the kind of violence that we have and are committing in Iraq, the way we have gone about this whole thing from about March 2003 on, is not the right way to get what Bush says we want.
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