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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices

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To: TimF who wrote (228572)4/10/2005 11:13:11 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) of 1573081
 
Oh come on, Tim.....we invaded Iraq to protect America [the stated reason] and to secure ME oil [the unstated reason]. Liberating the Iraqis and giving them democracy was way done the list.

Not that far down, esp, as it was done with the hope that Iraqi democracy would be a good example for other Arabs and in the long run protect Americans, our oil interests, and Israel, and generally make things better in the ME.

Wrong. Hitler was bringing freedom to the Germanic people entrapped in foreign countries.

He may have said that but that wasn't his goal. Germans where not free under Hitler.


Bingo! That's what the world believes about Bush.

No, Bush hasn't but his minions have. However, I will give you that no one has been shot who has spoken out against the war.........ostracized but not shot.

You can't consider all Republicans or conservatives to be Bush's minions.


That may be factually true but in reality, because of the right's strong ideology, that's not the preception. Besides, those comments are coming from people very close to Bush.....people in his Cabinet, in his administration, and in Congress.

we said we would sign the Kyoto Protocol and then reneged. We were a signatory to the World Court

Not ratified, and thus no obligation.

And ole Rummie argued we should not follow the Conventions when it came to the Iraqi and Afghan wars.

He said no such thing. He said certain actions would not be violations of those conventions. Others may disagree with him.


You're arguing semantics........not only did he say we would not follow the Conventions, in fact we did not follow the Conventions at his gulags in Cuba and Afghanistan.

And there's another 3-4 more things we have quit like the anti missile treaty.

That was signed and ratified, but the treaty itself included a provision for withdrawl with notice. Since we provided notice before with withdrew we did not violate it.


Excuse me......what did I frigging say? I said quit, not violate. We quit the anti ballistic missile treaty.....period. And I don't give a tinker's damn that the treaty had a withdrawal clause. Again, another similarity..........Hitler began to withdraw from treaties which limited him militaristically.


"3 - Find one statement where Bush said he was pulling out of, or refusing to sign or support, a treaty, because the rest of the world wanted the US to sign the treaty because they are jealous."

Tim, go play with your navel!

I guess you can't find any such statement.


No, because you are being very silly and immature.

ted
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