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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH

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To: PROLIFE who wrote (679312)4/14/2005 5:28:30 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof  Read Replies (1) of 769670
 
Negative, Proconfusion, I never said anything of the kind, you seem to be confused on that point... 'husbands' (and wives) come in all shades of fidelity, I guess.

But, if one wants to strip someone of their marriage rights, (as you seem to want to), then a legal process must be followed.

Merely having mobs assail and slander them in public is not sufficient in a nation of laws.

Furthermore, if one wants to CHANGE THE PREVAILING LAWS OF MARRIAGE, as you have said you do, redefining the tradition of marriage... then you have the obligation of spelling out exactly how you want to change the law, what the new law will be, and then explain why you think the change is right.

So far, you haven't advanced your position beyond the 'frothing mob' status --- you've failed at every opportunity to spell out WHAT YOU WANT THE NEW MARRIAGE LAWS TO SAY, or why.
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Well, Proconfusion, you outlined what you don't like about the guy... and, since it's a mostly free world, you're welcome to your opinions. (To be *consistent*, though, I'm SURE you feel EXACTLY THE SAME about Gingrich for leaving his wife for a younger woman while she was on her death bed....)

Now that you've vented and expressed your opinions... how about mustering the guts and honesty to try answering the simple questions I posted several times to you concerning the CHANGES to MARRIAGE LAW that you previously PROPOSED?????????

An opinion is just an opinion... but a MAJOR LEGAL CHANGE affects MILLIONS.

What do you say? Care to follow your logic and explain how your proposal to redefine TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE would work?
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Re: "You don't pull the plug on someone over the objections of family members, certainly not parents."

1) But that's how traditional marriage law has been for many HUNDREDS of years --- dating to before we were even a country, dating to English common law and earlier. When a couple marries, the parent's 'rights' over their actions are voided. The couple become a new whole, bonded to each other.

To change that, to grant rights to parents over their married offspring, you'd have to TOTALLY REDEFINE TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE. It would be a mere shell of what it is now. (Hell, with 'gay marriage' all you've got is *more* people wanting to gain the exact same legal rights that marrieds have today... but if you WIPE AWAY THE LEGAL RIGHTS OF MARRIAGE, then you have redefined to whole thing. It wouldn't be marriage any more, it would be co-habitation. Childhood would NEVER end!)

2) If 'parents gain an over-riding legal control' over their married offspring... then would the grandparents have an over-ride over THOSE decisions? Would the greatgrandparents be able to over-ride even that??????
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