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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
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To: jttmab who wrote (161436)5/5/2005 7:08:37 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) of 281500
 
Good Lord! You endorsed it. In fact, you said that that the ratios were only relevant in the context of assessing whether the American military was acting as a bunch of wanton murders. To quote:

"The exact numbers [ratios]to answer your questions are hard to get, and aren't really relevant unless you are asserting that the American military has acted as a bunch of wanton murderers in the various conflicts that you ask about. - two fowler."

That isn't endorsing it. "It" being the idea that the ratio is an important factor in determining if the soldiers are engaging in "wanton murder".

Maurice Winn submitted the idea that the ratio was relevant. My point was that if he was not asserting that the US military was acting as wanton murderers then the ratio is irrelevant. If he was asserting that the US military was a bunch of wanton murderers, then we could discuss whether or not the ratio was relevant. If he wasn't making that assertion than I had nothing to discuss, because I was talking about, and cared about, the reality of the situation not the fact that some people may perceive something about the situation.

Or to put things another way to say "X is irrelevant if Y is not true", does not mean you are saying "X is relevant if Y is true".

Tim
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