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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices
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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (231811)5/6/2005 8:14:23 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) of 1572803
 
Ted, nowhere in Lincoln's speech did he make any sort of separation between church and state. You might infer a conclusion one way or another, but that wasn't the point of Lincoln's address. Instead, he lays out a wonderful spiritual foundation for reconciliation. He was sensitive of the knowledge that both sides fought in the name of God, even though in reality "The Almighty has His own purposes," and he reconciled it all into a vision for reconstruction.

Nowhere do I see secularism entering that picture. Nowhere do I see any mention of the so-called wall between church and state, because none of that was relevant. You could come to conclusions yourself based on what Lincoln said, but in the end, you still haven't shown me any evidence of secularist influence in the middle of the 19th century.

Were church services held in the White House? Was Congress held up so people could attend mourning Mass? Did the president pray to God before a meeting of his cabinet?

You want me to show secularist proof. Where's the religious proof that Lincoln was a God fearing Christian? Why did he allow his wife to have seances under his nose? If they are pagan as you claim, would that be appropriate behavior for a Christian president's wife?

And why are you always ducking the big issue? The religious right wants us to jump hoops for their god but they have no proof he exists. Now how fair is that? They want all this special treatment for something that may only be a figment of their fantasies.

Seriously, for a people who don't have much to show for their beliefs, they tend to be quite demanding.....and arrogant and self righteous as well.

ted
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