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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (161578)	5/7/2005 9:34:08 AM
From: jttmab	Read Replies (2) of 281500

Please tell me this was "tongue in cheek"... From an 1850s perception there's more "accuracy" than there is sarcasm. In that time the Irish were portrayed as more similar to apes than they were humans and the slave owners of the south were approached to provide labor for the building of the railroad; the slave owners suggested the Irish as slaves had some value, while the Irish did not. Did Edison force him to sell it? No. Just like Bill Gates didn't force Tim Patterson to sell him DOS $50,000. In Edison's case, he bought a patent for a technology with potential, further developed and refined it, and eventually marketed it. He simply succeeded where Woodward failed. All I did was list it as one of the fortuitous events of American history/capitalism. Good going for Woodward and good going for Edison. Is it un-American to point out that it was invented by a Canadian? The British invented the CATSCAN. Is it un-American or even critical of America to point that out? MP3 came from a Canadian. Charles Goodyear did some hard work and had a bit of luck in arriving at vulcanized rubber. I don't think we need to portray it as pure genius. I'm always amazed by people with perspectives such as yours. It would seem you deliberately seek to adopt a myopic anti-american view, no matter how blatant the evidence of even greater corruption and wrong-doing going on in other parts of the world. You have it backwards. The very founding of the country and any progress that we've made as a society has been based on self-criticism. Beginning with the criticism of our then government of England. If the Founding Fathers had your attitude Jefferson, Hancock and Hamilton would have been asserting status quo and pointing out how bad it was in Russia or Africa or a whole host of other countries. We self-criticised the absence of a Bill or Rights or a women's right to vote and made change. We abolished slavery because we came to realize as a nation that it was wrong. ... we certainly didn't ascribe to the notion that it was ok, because other countries are worse. It is through self-criticism that we make positive change. You are the one that is un-American, because you contradict over 200 years of American history. jttmab

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