"The fetus is not an egg. YOU LIE!"
Is it possible to respond just ONCE as an adult and leave the "liar, liar" diarrhea behind?
Now, you have made it clear that you consider the termination of any pregnancy as either murder or the "killing of an innocent human life". However, I do not recall you ever making a distinction between the human value of the egg, embryo, or fetus--or the "rights" of these cells as they move through their respective stages of development toward a potential child?
On the other hand, I have made it ultra clear that abortion is not the most civilized method of birth control and that society ought to assist the termination of unwanted pregnancies sooner rather than later. It is very natural and condign, therefore, that I should refer to the fertilized egg as representing the quintessential abortion issue. It also serves to frame the discussion in objective parameters--by avoiding the inflammatory language that you intentionally engage in.
You, on the other hand, exhibit extreme irrationality in raging against my usage of neutral language. Your position on abortion is one of "innocent killing" or murder. Also...your position is nor dependent upon the presence of brain tissue or such. You have said endlessly that human life and the right to safety begins at conception. Yet, you continue to play a melodramatic game of subjectivity and verbal stage effects (for which you are ill suited, btw!).
As you consider life to be equally innocent as an egg or as an embryo...there is absolutely no rational reason for your attack against me for using objective and neutral language. I believe the woman has the RIGHT to her own body regardless of whether the egg has developed brain tissue.
I have publicly stated innumerable times that there is more offense to both sense and sensibility as abortions are delayed to later stages. And certainly--prolonging the termination of an unwanted pregnancy can distress (and otherwise impact) both potential parents. But I have never wavered from my insistence that it is a RIGHT for humans to remove anything from their own body--including their own living organs.
I don't know why you mess with your latest development "line charts" when it has nothing to do with your position on abortion? You know very well that it is not an issue for me as to a RIGHT to terminate a pregnancy.
Late stage abortions offend the civilized mind. So do early stage abortions in the sense that they reflect a species which only imitates intelligence. But people have a right to their own body and to defending it from all unwanted intrusion--or it is feckless to even speak of rights.
"Aside from being totally arbitrary you can see below that there are brain waves at approx 7 weeks"
If it is arbitrary, then why mention it? And what does seven weeks have to with your position that abortion is murder a trillionth of a second after the sperm and the egg meet saying "how do you do--doin a mile a minute"!
"I have to wonder why you keep using the argument that no one else mentioned if as you admit it is so unsound????"
Firstly, millions have mentioned it. Secondly, it is extremely pertinent to this discussion. Ascribing value because something may potentially grow a brain is no different than ascribing value because something will DEFINITELY lose a brain. Therefore...you have no basis on which to protect the egg of another based on potentiality. And you certainly have no basis to value something without brain tissue or a nervous system once potentiality is removed (as you have assisted to remove it) from the discussion.
And your...I am doing God's work (which allows you to dictate that what is might is right) will not fly, either!
"It's not an egg, and it's not a potential Human being"
It IS an egg and it IS a potential child. Don't be stupid. Where do you think you started? If it was oral sex you would never have existed. But out of an infinite number of possibilities and potentials...YOU swam into a fallopian tube. WOW! What a swimmer you were eh, Greg? And it had no relationship to the sort of brain you would develop once you had survived every other organism in the world trying to eat you.
You probably think you are quite special! I don't. I have no reason to believe that other life forms do not consider themseves as special as you. Yes...you kill many at will. But trillions of germs and other creatures kill humans everyday, as well. And anyway...is that really what makes you so great? The ability to keep the rest from killing you so long as you can kill them! AMOXICILLIN, PLease! I have a bad case of strange cunnilingus.
Ants don't want to build or live in condos--least ways not your kind. They are a different size you must remember. Probably a good time for me to recommend "FLATLAND"--although I forget the author's name.
"That's a cheap and shallow canard"
It was meant to infuse some understanding and self awareness into you. This is always pertinent to me.
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"You accord a mindless egg the right to use the body of a fully developed human against their will."
No I don't, you lie yet again!
So, you support abortion, then? Or do agree (as you just said) that you do not support post conception "life" in remaining "alive" AGAINST the mother's wishes?
Your quote is pretty clear, btw--so you might consider your response.
Aw...just be evasive and phoney if that is all you aspire to! That only embarrasses you on THIS thread! It is up to you if you want to put forth some dignity and pride here. It is not necessary. Just don't brownnose here, please. You DO have a church... |