"The fetus is not an egg. YOU LIE!"
I have never said the fetus was simply an egg--you idiot.
It would surely be nice if you would stop your verbal diarrhea as an argument. I have never known anyone so lacking in integrity. You continue to misrepresent--and then to respond like a smartass to positions you have misrepresented.
"it would be helpful if you picked one and stayed with it"
"potential child" simply refers to the fact that a wanted fetus is likely to be born. Potential mother and potential father refer to the same possibility. Is this too difficult for you?
"A child is a potential adult but still remains a Human being."
Are you getting it, yet?! An egg is a potential child but still remains an egg! Society ought not to accord "rights" to an egg--nor to anything else which is inseparable (at the time) from the woman's body. You see, greg or e--this would lead to contradiction and conflict.
Again--in your diarrhea you pretend that there is some question about the DNA of the egg. Nobody on this thread has questioned the DNA. It is just another of your pretenses.
Just for your information as regards the evolution of that DNA:
www-biology.ucsd.edu
"Their comparison of the amino acid sequences identified 548 fruit-fly genes that are so similar to genes involved in 714 human genetic disorders that the similarity could have statistically occurred by chance only one time out of 10 billion.
"If the probability was less than one out of 10 billion, we considered it a hit," says Bier. "That means that the proteins these genes code for are so similar that all of them or part of them most likely came from an ancestral protein.""
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"Why; (if you believe that a fetus has intrinsic Human value after it develops brain function,) do you not oppose abortion after this point?"
I said neither of those things. You either have a comprehension problem, an integrity problem--or both. I have said repeatedly (and you keep pretending to have missed it) that I do not support abortion as birth control. I support the RIGHT to terminate a pregnancy.
As to there being a distinction between creatures with brain tissue and a nervous system--and creatures that cannot process information in any way--well...it is an obvious distinction. But it does not change the fact that all people have a right to their own body and to anything in their body. For instance, a pregnant woman has as much right to jump up and down, to drink bourbon, or to kill herself...as any other person does. Rights are not food stamps that society can grant or remove at whim. If jumping up and down or taking blue cohosh causes an abortion--it is a fundamental RIGHT. But taking such herbs are very dangerous, so women should have access to the best medical assistance when/if they wish to terminate an unwanted pregnancy.
"I disagree! If as it seems you support abortion through the ninth month then the "natural and condign" point of discussion should be where we disagree"
I support the RIGHT to terminate a pregnancy at ANY time. But BECAUSE I believe that abortions should be done immediately if the potential mother is going to terminate pregnancy--THEREFORE, I speak of the fertilized egg as being the earliest possible opportunity.
"Since we both agree that killing children is wrong, then the next point is the actual birth. If you find that inflammatory, then that should be a clue for you that your position is inconsistent"
You have gone into your own fantasy world again! A fertilized egg is not a child! A child is a creature that a woman gives BIRTH to and separates from her body. Nobody passed out cigars when you were an egg or a fetus. It was not until you were BORN that you became the child of someone.
"But according to you, it's not wrong, so you personal, subjective feelings aside; Who cares what you think?"
I have never said it was right or wrong and my opinion on the matter is no basis for whether or not anyone cares about my opinion. You are quacking like a duck. AGAIN: I believe in the RIGHT to terminate an unwanted pregnancy. There are many things that are not kind or beneficent while yet being lawful. For instance, I have a right to raise the rent to my tenant (if I had one) even though they barely have enough to eat as it is.
"Not at all. Your language is not neutral, it's not even accurate and calling you on that is not raging"
Using "fertilized egg" IS neutral and DOES avoid the inflammatory rhetoric that you prefer. It IS accurate and you HAVE been "raging".
"If fetal development is not an issue, then stop throwing it up as if it were. I was merely responding to more of your smoke and mirror stuff; YOU BROUGHT IT UP!"
No. YOU posted a developmental time line chart with a cut and paste from somewhere. I will say it for the millionth time: People have the RIGHT to terminate an unwanted pregnancy at all stages. It is preferable that unwanted pregnancies be terminated as early as possible if they are to be terminated. Both the potential mother and the potential father will statistically experience more likelihood of distress the longer the procedure is delayed.
"Stop spinning your wheels and your wheels will stop spinning!"
I am not spinning my wheels. I am responding to one who is (or pretends to be) an idiot.
"It IS an egg and it IS a potential child. Don't be stupid."
Inflammatory? Inaccurate? Why yes!"
It is NOT inflammatory in any way. And it is ENTIRELY accurate. So again--you are just playing the fool and wasting my time.
The rest of your post is mindless mumble and jargon.
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I am going to bold and number key beliefs which I have already stated over and over again. The next time you misrepresent me it will save me time as I will just need to reference the post. I will put it in a separate response to make it more convenient. |
