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Politics : Should God be replaced?

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To: Greg or e who wrote (20156)5/26/2005 3:18:25 PM
From: Solon  Read Replies (2) of 28931
 
"I don't know how else to interpret your statement?"

That is because you have your "idiot face" on. Let me help you by paraphrasing the sentence that has confused you SO MUCH!

If the egg is unwanted then people should be encouraged and medically assisted to dispose of the egg at the earliest possible time before it (develops into a morula, a blastocyst, an embryo, and a fetus)--and "quickens"."

You see, Greg or e? I wasn't referring to the egg "quickening" as an egg, greg or e! Eggs do not "quicken"!

Please, greg or e, if any sentence confuses you--just tell me you are confused and I will help you with it. If you still find yourself dumbfounded--or just plain dumb--then you can return to being a foul mouth with an idiot face on.

"Quicken also means: To come or return to life"

Yes it does, greg or e. But you are aware that I used it to refer to the quickening of the fetus as denoted by the potential mother feeling movement. This is the meaning in the context of abortion as understood by scientists, physicians, and the Church.

"but before that, you think it's just an unwanted egg"

You must stop acting so childish. People are watching, you know. It is obvious that many eggs ARE unwanted: people INTENTIONALLY dispose of them. It is just as obvious that many eggs are NOT unwanted. People permit them to "quicken" and to be born as children. Oh, oh---you are going to get "confused" again! I will paraphrase!

People permit the egg to develop through stages to become a fetus--which "quickens" at some point--and people continue to carry these fetuses and to then give birth to them at which point they are mothers and the fetus is a child. Whew! Now I won't have to listen to puerile insults for a dozen posts! Or is that a vain hope, greg or e?!

"NO you said the fertilized egg is only potentially Human"

Since I began this thread I have probably stated a couple of dozen times that the sperm, egg, and zygote (fertilized egg) are human in dna structure. Zygotes are NOT human individuals or persons. They are NOT bipedal, and they are NOT conscious. As the egg develops through evolutionary phases of fish and reptile it eventually takes on human evolutionary characteristics and develops consciousness. (Oh--I don't want to "confuse" you! It is NOT an egg when it passes through these phases!)! Whew!

"You are just a bigger blob of DNA and you cannot lawfully be killed, but then you can defend yourself and the unborn cannot. Handy for you."

Well, I AM bigger than a speck--it is true. But I am not "just" bigger. I have brain tissue and a nervous system and I have individual rights as a bipedal mammal with consciousness. I was once a potential human (like everything else)--but I became an ACTUAL human. And yes--that is "handy" if you say so...

"If zygote is the word why do and did you insist on repeatedly using the term "unwanted egg" if not to downplay the killing of a Human Being?"

"Zygote" is not "the word". "Fertilized egg" refers to the same thing. Whenever I used "unwanted" as a qualifier of the egg it was because I was referring to eggs (OR ZYGOTES) which are UNWANTED. I hope you are not getting too confused, greg or e?!

"I proved it by posting the link and now you accuse me of posting phony links?

BECAUSE YOU ARE A PHONEY! Your "link" states: "I bet you can't post more than once without personal insults."

Now...is it TRUE that I have NOT posted more than once without personal insults? If you say that THAT is true then YOU are the liar. You are also a PHONEY and I have just shoved it in your face!

"I should have added Partial to birth otherwise my statement is completely accurate."

If you wish to repeat what you "should" have said, then I will respond to what you "should" have said.

"As long as the entire child has not cleared the birth canal you say it is not a child and therefore it can be killed. That's just sick!"

That is NOT what I said. I said that people have a RIGHT to dispose of anything within their bodies. I did not say it was always good or sensible. It may indeed be "sick" to do certain abortions. In most places, PBA's are only assisted under very constrained circumstances. Unfortunately...this stance often results in births which are tossed into alleys or rivers. The question of when society should assist abortion is a difficult one. The question of a person's right to abort is not. The right to kill yourself or to take drugs, drink, or live recklessly is the right over your body and anything within your body.

"Bull sh-t!!!! you do so and you don't have the stones to admit it!

I challenge you yet again to stick to the issues and leave the personal insults aside. Can you do it?
"

The above moronic statement speaks for itself! Thank you for doing my work for me!
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