"I have never heard anyone, religious or not, suggest that an "egg" is a person in need of protection from being aborted."
You are probably not biased or stupid. You probably just missed several thousand posts because you are new here. I will just take a few moments to quote greg or e's beliefs to you. Greg or e believes that the fertilized egg is a person which ought to have the same rights as any other person. He DOES believe that ALL the unborn (from conception onward) are human persons with human rights. I guess you are not too familiar with this debate. It is very common for religious people to whine about the rights of eggs--as Greg or e does:
I think I have very carefully distinguished between individual Human Persons that come in to existence at the moment of conception and skin cells which consist exclusively of your DNA. You are a genetically unique individual Human Being, and have been from the moment your parents DNA mixed together at your conception (20275)
The inevitability of God's judgment awaits us all. Only by receiving the Grace He freely offers us through the atoning sacrifice of Jesus can we escape the "coming wrath". (19958)
EXODUS
"12:7 And they shall take of the blood, and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post of the houses, wherein they shall eat it.
12:8 And they shall eat the flesh in that night, roast with fire, and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it.
12:9 Eat not of it raw, nor sodden at all with water, but roast with fire; his head with his legs, and with the purtenance thereof.
12:10 And ye shall let nothing of it remain until the morning; and that which remaineth of it until the morning ye shall burn with fire.
12:11 And thus shall ye eat it; with your loins girded, your shoes on your feet, and your staff in your hand; and ye shall eat it in haste: it is the LORD's passover.
12:12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD.
12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt."
The biological, scientific fact, is that at the moment of conception a new life which is biologically distinct from the mother is created. It is alive, it is human, it is innocent, and it is worthy of respect and protection as much as you or I (19973)
the embryo is genetically distinct from both mother and father. It is biologically alive. It is human. (19976)
"Spontaneous abortions are not "people" dying of natural causes."
They certainly are! If you know what spontaneous means, if you know what a natural cause is, and if you know what biological death entails, then it's very simple and straightforward. I know you have to obfuscate the person-hood of the human beings that you are so clearly in favor of killing. (19979)
believe that human life begins at conception. The man's sperm and the woman's egg combine to produce a new and unique life. That life is as Human as you are. (19989)
"A New and distinct Human Life begins at conception!
That's not a belief, or an opinion, that is a fact! (19998)
Do you not see the distinction between single unfertilized egg and an egg that has combined with another human beings sperm; thereby creating a new genetically distinct and living Human Being? (20004)
a new and unique Human life does indeed come into existence at the moment of conception. (20018)
the egg and the sperm are each individual components of an individual Human being, but that when they combine they create a NEW Human life that is biologically distinct from both parents. (20044)
a new person comes into existence at conception (20046)
A new and unique Human life comes into existence at conception. (20053)
And when they come together a new personal Human being, begins it's distinct life (20071)
Human beings are persons by nature not location or level of physical development. (20086)
The scientific fact is that a Zygote (fertilized egg) is a Human being in its earliest stage of development. (20092)
people are human at all stages of development. (20118)
I have demonstrated that abortion is the killing of innocent Human beings (20138)
the testimony I cited made it clearly apparent that what was being referred to was a new Human Being which begins at conception (20149)
Therefore they constitute a genetically distinct Human life from the very start not potential Human, FULLY HUMAN!
What is a Human if not a Person? (20154)
Of course the fertilized egg has it's own unique DNA that is distinct from Mother and Father. It may not be conscious or bipedal yet but it is most certainly a Human Being. (20156)
The fact is; the stages that the Human Embryo goes through are all Human stages and the Embryo is fully Human and a distinct person from conception! (20187)
All Human are persons by nature regardless of the stage of development they have reached. (20211)
A Human Being is an actually existent, genetically distinct Human Life form that encompasses all stages of development from conception to death regardless of size, location, dependence, or degree of development. (20218)
All individual Human persons have intrinsic rights and the unborn are individual Human People, no different than you. (20306)
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"as if all religious people hold the same view, which is also ridiculous, but another issue altogether"
I did not say all religious people held the same view. Try to catch the context and appreciate that I am not writing an essay. OK? |
