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Politics : View from the Center and Left

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To: MulhollandDrive who wrote (1812)7/19/2005 12:30:08 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (3) of 541906
 
"well yes, one can 'protest' by committing criminal acts

but at the end of the day

they are just criminal acts, not 'protest'"

So one can protest by criminal acts, but because you say it is not protest, it isn't protest? And this makes sense?

In your opinion "protest" by criminal acts is "not 'protest'"- so your so called argument is based upon opinions too (and circular ones, at that). That's the whole point of a discussion, sometimes, that we have different opinions. There isn't necessarily a right answer. I don't think Kholt has mental problems because she doesn't agree with me, and I hope she doesn't think I have any because I don't agree with her. I am interested in getting at why she thinks what she thinks, and at this point all I understand is that it isn't "helpful", which doesn't do much for my logical understanding of the issue, but I hope in time I will get more clarity on her position. You seem to be interested in only attacking me personally because I do not agree with you, and that I find unacceptable.

The only reason you decided to attack me personally by telling me I have comprehension problems is because I don't agree with you. I'm really not interested in taking this any further, after this post, because I don't like to be treated the way you treat me, and I won't put up with it.

Since you must have your answer to the Dutch killing (which I thought would be obvious from my treatment of Rudolph- the two situations are ver similar, imo):
The killer of the Dutch man had a poltical grievance- and I'd say it was a politically motivated killing. It was a political protest that was also criminal murder. The fact that a political grievance is handlend violently, does not make it not poltical. The fact that the poltical protest is born of rage does not make it not political nor does it negate the fact that is may be an act of protest. It may be uncomfortable, for some people, that political protest encompasses the violent, but I do not think discomfort should drive definitions. If I allowed my own discomfort to drive my definitions, I would prefer to define violent and criminal actions out of the realm of "political protest", but logically I cannot for the life of me see how I would do that.
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