that's a straw man you put up to knock down my argument without addressing it.
  no straw man here....  and I am addressing it, you just do not want to see it (or understand it)
  THIS is what i originally responded to:
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  Nothing we write or that he wrote will change what makes the actual bombers tick.
  THIS suggests to me that it is more important to find out what is it that motivates the bomber...  (that is how i understand your statement.)
  i said to you....
  i do not CARE the slightest about THEIR motivation.
  ALL i need to understand is that:
  1. they attacked us 2. their PUBLICLY stated policy is to kill everything 'western' *particularly USA related* 3. for the past 35 years the USA has tried to reason with these animals, from the sublime: giving foreign aid to questionable countries who have supported terrorism,  to the idiotic: making arafat a diplomat).
  so at this point....
  YES, the BIGGER stick IS the only option.
  They don't respond to conventional western deterrence, as much as we would like them to.
  i am NOT interested in how they reason (if at all).  I am interested in KILLING them, a dead terrorist cannot 'react' or 'adjust tactics'
  the time for bs is long past, it is time for SURVIVAL.
  Go ahead and bomb all you like. The only result will be a new generation of terrorists among the survivors and their relatives.
  no.
  you do not understand what i am saying.
  i have the least bit of interest in 'letting survivors and their relatives have a chance'  i told you, the time for bs is long gone.  it is simple.  either we KILL them (and i mean KILL THEM ALL), or they KILL US  (and they DO mean to kill us ALL)
  If you approach was feasible and effective, it would have been tried by now. It isn't and it wasn't. Makes a great fiery speech, however.
  it has not been effective ?
  according to who ?  you ?
  so explain the newly created lamb, muammar gadaffi
  as to not been tried....  preciesely!! it has not been tried, but now it will be...  because FINALLY...  i am beginning to see the determination and certainly the technology to be effective.
  once again.... no fiery speech here either... it is very simple....
  kill them or they will kill us...   if you do not understand that....  well, that is a different problem. |