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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
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To: jttmab who wrote (166793)7/22/2005 9:33:27 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (1) of 281500
 
"I believe just that is their goal. Strange, isn't it, that the fact that NOT having safe abortion available had a price in lives has been conveniently forgotten?"

That statement presumes that a fetus is a person. Thousands of years of theological and philosophical history says its not.
Not who I'm referring to with that statement. I was referring to all the WOMEN who were killed by "coathanger abortions" before abortion were made legal and could be done routinely in safe medical surroundings.

"But the RR says both you and Roe v. Wade got it wrong and abortion IS murder. It's that belief that leads to the rest of the trouble."

Let's not limit it to just me and Roe v. Wade. The religious right ignores the scriptures and the theologians that preceded them. The RR says Judaism got it wrong; the Talmud got it wrong; the old Testament got it wrong; St. Thomas Aquinas got it wrong. Where does the "religious" right get their theological opinion from?
The same place all theology comes from: it's what you want it to be.

P.S. And the Founding Fathers got it wrong as abortion was allowed under common law.
Which I previously also stated. Which means Roe v. Wade can be considered to be not the result of a 9-person legislature, but rather the routine striking down of state law it considers unconstitutional by the USSC. Something the USSC has been doing and has been accepted for over 200 years.

P.P.S. In our democracy, it's supposed to be the will of the people that determines it's laws; 2/3 of the people believe that Roe v. Wade should not be overturned and that abortion should be legal.
Not entirely. There are rights guaranteed citizens which are not subject to majority rule. (At least a simple majority; presumably even freedom of speech and the press could be abolished by Constitutional amendment.)
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