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To: software salesperson who wrote (126)	8/1/2005 9:17:10 PM
From: LLCF	Read Replies (2) of 26251

< i'm never sure what the proposed argument for creationism > I think the creationist argument ones runs into in the media is what people define as the 'creationist argument'... as if refuting it had anything to do with refuting the belief of 'god as creator of the universe'. Much of the current creationist argument simply doesn't make sense as it tries to refute things that can be shown to exist {evolutionary tendancies, whether exactly spelled out by current science is absolutely correct or not, for example}. To assume that the easy dismissal of much of the creationist babble equates to dismissal of "god as creator" also contains little truth however, especially since one would expect science and intellect to know better than to draw such a conclusion. Personally I love Dr. David Hawkins quote on the matter: "This whole argument about creationism vs evolution is SO DUMB... evolution IS creationism unfolding. How could it be any different?" He then goes on to point of that if God is omnipresent [all major religions] then how can anything {including evolution, OR a person} be separate from god? All mystics also report time and distance to be an illusion which would further call into question how god could possibly have shown up, disappeared and is going to come back to judge "someday". FWIW, science long ago showed how everything anyone does and all that happens is recorded with the simple observation that looking at a star is looking back in time. In other words, simply altering point of view shows time to be an illusion and the ability to indeed see that the universe records everyting that ever happened. Not that all this hasnt' been misrepresented and misunderstood. Anyway, I'd go so far as to say that in reality it is todays intellectual paradigm of religion {the belief that god is defined by the very religion they believe {know?} to be fallacious} that causes them to dismiss any possibility of god or looking at mystical experience and teaching for clues to questions they have. Many are starting to check things out however... lot's of meditating PHD's these days :)) DAK

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