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Pastimes : SPIRITUALITY and its effect on Religion - Are they the same?

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To: 2MAR$ who wrote (9)8/28/2005 12:25:04 PM
From: TheStockStalker   of 65
 
Also dangling the "eternal" life bananna in front of a mature Buddhist Abbott , is no enticement at all .

I agree 100%. It would be like offering banana to a Whole Foods supermarket. One that is weened from the milk and then permeated with enlightenment of mature spiritual concepts (solid food)does not walk by the bananas in a market, drop to his knees in fear and stop shopping forever.

Luke 17:20-21
Jesus replied, "The kingdom of God does not come with your careful observation, 21 nor will people say, 'Here it is,' or 'There it is,' because the kingdom of God is within you."
NIV


Ah, one of my very favorites and also one that I posted un the thread header except that I used NIV in this case.

Luke 17:20-21
Jesus replied, "The kingdom of God does not come with your careful observation, 21 nor will people say, 'Here it is,' or 'There it is,' because the kingdom of God is within you."
NIV

Sensory confines are prisons we must overcome to get our reward.

I think the Son of God could have done much more in the way of miracles by remaining amongst us to teach what it always and only takes many many years to really teach .

I suspect that it must be real drag to the captain/creator of the universe to have to do over and over lots of little magic tricks in order to prove your own divinity. I do think it was nice of him to go ahead and do it for the little short while that he did. I think spiritual truth in many ways reminds me of trading truths. Until we master our trade we always think if we just had just one more piece of information then we will know what we need to do to make a good trade. So then the FED number comes out and we are suddenly looking for the next Oil inventories piece of information because now we surely must only need one just one more piece of information. Many traders feel like they are always just one piece of information away from being the best traders they have ever been but in many ways its kind of kind of like coming up one inch short when chasing you tail. Where one only thinks they would have won had they caught it or bought it and end up biting their tail, or buying the top when all the info is already out respectively.

I think the bible is clear that the same Spirit in the "Son of Man" (Jesus) or the one we call "The Son of GOD" (Christ)is still here but inside of us all. This is even better!!!!The only difference is that it remained in a form that is not sensible to our 5 senses and must be accessed by our higher sense. We can access it all we want and whenever we want and ultimately make our own miracles.

John 14:15-20

15 "If you love me, you will obey what I command. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever- 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you. 18 I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19 Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. 20 On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.
NIV

This is not being aimed at you by the way... It is just that your posts are so relevant to my view on these things and offer an excellent base for me in which to go into some of this stuff. I know there are other Spiritualist out there too and would love to here from any and all of you.

Peace,
Oz
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