re: If we had gone in and overthrown Saddam and immediately left, would there be suicide bombers there now? **** No...
Thanks, that's all I was saying.
re: No, it'd be worse: Civil war with the winner ending up becoming the next Saddam.
Change of subject; OK I'll bite.
We obviously don't know what would have happened. But having stayed in Iraq, a "civil war with the winner ending up becoming the next Saddam", or worse an Iranian style government, is NOW a distinct possibility. Nothing different except $300Billion and 1000's of US casualties, 10,000's of Iraqi casualties, the animosity of the world, blah, blah, blah. Eventually Iraqis will decide their own form of government, self determination, but the process won't start until we are the hell out of there.
re: Either way, the hatred and temptation of power was there to begin with. America did not create it.
No kidding. It's been there for thousands of years. We didn't create it and we won't end it either.
re: Whether we should have gone in there or not is a different question. But its not intellectually honest to change the whole cause-n-effect relationship just because you don't think we should have went into Iraq.
I made a very narrow argument about suicide bombers and occupation and you guys keep trying to expand it... and put words in my mouth. You do that all the time. Argue with what I said, not with what you think I think.
John |