He existed with God before the earth was created. He was there when God created the angels and the whole creation.
That is quite irrelevant , but makes for such a great story, not unique . Since the Universe is eternal and you and I are composed of atoms and moelcules , we too are eternal , I would suppose . Sounds very "New Age" to me !
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And BTW , have you seen any angels lately , or heard of their comings and goings or presence manifesting in the last 1000yrs ? Makes for good TV now , and was a great hit back then too.
Jesus is not a new thing.
yes , that is exactly the content of the post you are responding to....the idea of a "Christ" was definitely not a new thing .
came to earth in the form of a man for a short time to redeem man according to God's plan.
Redeem according to who's plan ? And that idea of the Godman Paul stole himself from the pagans , and those ideas that were brought westwards from the east and drifted in with the spice . Or had existed in Egypt already for 2000 yrs. The words themselves of "Redeem" or the "Wages of Sin" were of that lexicon of the Corinthian audiences who were a strategic seaport city of trade and corporations . It was the mish-mash word choosing of the priests and opportunist preachers like Saul , who wooed his Greek & Roman audiences as he plagiarized from their ancient Godman myths and beliefs , woven around a blanket of some old testament meandering and of the "Chosen People" idiocy .
went back where he has been for eternity. God was with us
Where is this eternity that one goes back too? That seems a paradox , but also one of the ideas we can say for sure was not even Hebrew in origins let alone Christianity , the bulk of which knows so little of it's own Christ's origins . And Paul wouldn't have known it either , except for the region of antiquity he himself was immersed in and surrounded by , as he looted their thoughts , their myths and their beliefs from and inserted it into his own ....while he made pup- tents for the Roman legions .
The barbaric things were done by men, not God. If you want to place blame, place it where it belongs
Yes , that's why we call it the age of reason now we are living in.
There were plenty more barbaric people who were not Christians who did horrible things
But not ones who based their total belief system on a
" God of Love & Forgiveness "
never said to do anything except love one another. You can't blame the evil on Him.
I never supposed he was ever really talking to anyone but addressing the "reason" of his own fanatical warrior tribesman , and this he said himself . I would also suppose he was an ardent simple man , more akin to a Hebrew version of Robert Burns the poet farmer that charmed the wealthy with the wisdom of a simple man , who knew the blessings of hard work . The excesses of the rich , and the sufferings of the poor . But also that wealth also does not bring happiness ...but more often iniquity . |
