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To: Bilow who wrote (172359)	10/12/2005 1:40:29 PM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (2) of 281500

Hello Carl. Re: "The fact is that the war is not winnable and never was. To believe in a fairyland hope that it was winnable was to consign several thousand US soldiers to an early grave in a doomed effort that resulted in a larger and healthier Al Qaeda than ever before. ... You can go on and on about how we need this war in order to save Iraq from whatever, but the fact is that the mess in the country is far worse now than it ever was before we got there. You can go on and on about how victory is right around the corner, (what's the latest, that the number 3 man in Al Qaeda has been taken?) but the fact is that similar things have been told essentially constantly for 2 years and it doesn't fool anyone." So when are staunch Republicans like yourself going to come out of the woodwork and oppose not just the war, but also the elected Republicans who conceived the war, birthed it and are nurturing it? You voted Bush in based on your stated hope that he'd backtrack on the stupidity that got us into Iraq; in view of his dogged determination to compound the error with the continued support of his party don't you currently feel an obligation to actively oppose those hawks? Could you support a Democrat? Are there any moderate Republicans who are not hell bent on miracles in Iraq whom you'd support? Does Chuck Hagel have any chance to win a Republican nomination? I'll tell you what issues I'll be looking at. I'm a registered independent and I've become a one issue voter. I'll not vote for anyone, at any level of office, who doesn't express the view that the war was a mistake and that we cannot "win," unless they're running against someone who's even more pro-war. To get my full support and contributions they must express an intent to get us the hell out of Iraq on a short time line. I like Chuck Hagel but I don't believe he has any chance of getting the Republican nomination. There are just too many Republicans who see things in shallow, miracle terms to allow him to get the nod. I'd vote for Dean but not Clinton or Edwards unless they were the lesser of two evils, as Kerry was last election. I think Rudy is crooked. John McCain is honest and principled but not particularly perceptive and far too committed in Iraq for me to accept. Biden is a fool and as committed as McCain. But it's not people like me who elected the Bush Administration. How do you see your choices? Ed

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