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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (172509)10/15/2005 8:48:46 AM
From: jttmab  Read Replies (1) of 281500
 
Yeah.. some recruiting tool.. I read something the other day... It was the story of this foreign fighter detainee who mentioned that from the time he entered Iraq (paying some smuggler $200 for the pleasure) until his capture, he was kept in isolation, away from Iraqis and denied any form of information.

That would be anecdotal. And doesn't say much about the general group. But let's say it does as you imply. Iraq is a recruiting tool that works. The foreign fighter actually paid someone $200. I'm going to assume that it was for the privelege of fighting as opposed to taking a family holiday in Tikrit.

Btw, did you see that letter from Zawahiri? Even he is getting nervous about Zarqawi's conduct. And no.. the letter is not a fake(despite Zawahiris denials about having written it).

It's a captured document.. taken from the site of a raid. I think that's about all I can say on the matter for now.


I'm relieved to know that the US can now distinguish between fake documents and real ones. That yellowcake document forgery was a minor embarassment to Powell. I don't know if you're aware of the intelligence we gathered in Iraq [from an informant and a subsequent raid] that indicated the terrorists were going to attack the NYC subway last week.

But ok. I can go with it's a real document. Are you aware that there are documents going around the US, like from Ret. Gen Odum [among many others] that indicate that that Bush's war is not the brightest move. I'm confident in those cases, you'll be quite confortable in saying they are wrong and Bush is right. So what if the Zawahiris letter is authentic? Does Zarqawi agree with it? Are fewer people dying because of the Zawahiri letter? Are you saying that you know that Zawahiri has a good grasp of the situation on the ground, but Zarqawi does not. Let's suppose that Zarqawi is sitting there saying, "Zawahiri makes some good points, I can adapt." Is that a good thing?

But we really should build them ourselves so we avoid exacerbating the foreign trade deficit.

You're not up to current conservative thinking. Deficits don't matter. Whether its Federal budget deficits or trade deficits, it doesn't matter. Bush just waived a requirement of law that US flag carriers are no longer required to transport oil in US ports. That business has been turned over to foreign flag carriers and parts of the US merchant marine are now sitting idle.

It all depends.. I can't really discuss that issue except to say that in many cases the evidence that initially justifies their detention is based upon "non-public" sources. Thus, most of can't be used by the Iraqi magistrate court to obtain a conviction.

But it keeps them off the streets and allows us to chat with them a bit..


They are back on the street again. You can sleep well knowing they pledged to be nice Iraqis.

jttmab
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