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To: Solon who wrote (103)10/25/2005 12:36:20 PM
From: Greg or e  Read Replies (1) of 2133
 
"it is just game playing for you to mix quotes from separate posts and pretend a causal correspondence. Dumb, dumb, dumb!"

I am not "mixing quotes" just continuing within the context of a conversation (which you initiated) that spans more than one post.

"It is not my authority to pronounce anyone unworthy of life. But I do support the rights of individuals to commit suicide or to choose abortion. Again, it is not my decision to make for them."

Yet that is exactly what you do; as Bauer points out;

"To them,(people like Solon) Margaret falls into the category of avoidable human suffering. At best, a tragic mistake. At worst, a living embodiment of the pro-life movement. Less than human. A drain on society. That someone I love is regarded this way is unspeakably painful to me." (emphasis mine)

It is a moral evil to so devalue the life of Human beings with disabilities to the point where you feel it is morally justified to put them to death. It makes little difference whether it is five minutes before, or five minutes after the birth. They are both an act of murder.

As I pointed out, the article, (remember, it was the one that YOU quoted) also mentioned infanticide which the Greeks routinely practiced, (it did not even mention suicide) and noted that they were for all intent, purpose and effect, the same.

Here is the part you quoted, only in context this time

"In ancient Greece, babies with disabilities were left out in the elements to die. We in America rely on prenatal genetic testing to make our selections in private, but the effect on society is the same.

Margaret's old pediatrician tells me that years ago he used to have a steady stream of patients with Down syndrome. Not anymore. Where did they go, I wonder. On the west side of L.A., they aren't being born anymore, he says.

The irony is that we live in a time when medical advances are profoundly changing what it means to live with disabilities. Years ago, people with Down syndrome often were housed in institutions. Many were in poor health, had limited self-care and social skills, couldn't read, and died young. It was thought that all their problems were unavoidable, caused by their genetic anomaly.

Now it seems clear that these people were limited at least as much by institutionalization, low expectations, lack of education and poor health care as by their DNA. Today people with Down syndrome are living much longer and healthier lives than they did even 20 years ago. Buoyed by the educational reforms of the past quarter-century, they are increasingly finishing high school, living more independently and holding jobs.
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washingtonpost.com

To which you replied: "Less suffering in the world. If every sperm was to mature there would not be enough planets to contain the people."

I see you have switched from euphemistically referring to unborn Human Beings as "eggs" to calling them "sperm" It is clear you have no interest in the truth but would rather just spew propaganda and lies; whatever it takes to advace the agenda of death.

Got to run the furnace man is here
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