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Politics : View from the Center and Left
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To: TigerPaw who wrote (5058)11/7/2005 7:37:45 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) of 541556
 
Your heaping one stretch on top of another until you twist the whole thing in to a pretzel.

The necessary and proper clause allows the government to do things, it doesn't make any specific requirement, even an implied one.

The amendment itself just demands that from time to time the president shall give information to the congress about the state of the union. It does not specify the SOTU as we know it today. Technically the president could be found to have acted in an unconstitutional manner if he never gave congress any information about the state of the union but that would just be silly.

And once again your whole case is about something you think is explicit in the constitution, while even if one where to accept that there was a constitutional requirement for the president to be 100% truthful and accurate in the SOTU address, and that requirement was exactly as you laid it out in your arguments, such a requirement would be definition be implicit not explicit, which has been my main point all along.

The President cannot convey the state of the union if he is permitted to lie about it.

That isn't just untrue, its silly.

That makes it part of his sworn duty to try and be accurate

One does not follow the other. Even if I assumed your previous premise that would not make it part of his sworn duty to try and be accurate.

And then of course the whole argument is based on the assumption, that the SOTU address amounted to nothing but a string of lies and deliberate deceptions, something which has not been shown to be true and probably could not be proven even if it was true.

Tim
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