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Politics : Just the Facts, Ma'am: A Compendium of Liberal Fiction

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To: Solon who wrote (41574)11/19/2005 4:42:54 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (1) of 90947
 
"So it is sufficient simply for a PM to shoot off his mouth to get you into a war"

I wasn't speaking to the formal process. I was speaking to the genesis. Quite simply: we had an obligation to support the commonwealth. We did so. That is your answer as to WHY?

Hmmmm. Which one or ones? There are appear to be 54 nations in it. If Tuvalu is attacked, are you going to war? Or are some nations more equal than others?

The impression I get from your previous remarks is the UK is the most equal of all.

"Got a link to the text"

The BNA Act is not an arcane document. It came about as a response to the fear of "Manifest Destiny" so it should not be unfamiliar to those whom study American History.

HEY! THere's 8 good atates and and 3 territories up there! :-)
Have to wait till after global warming for the ice to melt, though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_history_of_Canada#British_North_America_Act_.281867.29

You guys have long memories. Last time we threatened to fight was under Polk in the 1840s. :-)
We settled it with no shooting in 1846.

"YOU had interests in this war?"

Our Head of State was at war and we had promised to defend Mother England. It is enough. You were independent of Britain. We were not. We still are not.

You Head of State and Mother England are at war in Iraq. Your statement appears rather simplistic. You seem to pick and choose.

"I failed to see reference to your peacekeeping troops in Sudan that are busily keeping the Arabs from slaughtering the blacks"

That is because I claimed that we do "what we can"--NOT that we had supplied troops to Darfur.

You indicated a problem with genocide. You, along with the Europeans also let genocide go on in former Yugoslavia for YEARS until the US led you and them in. Yet you seemingly accuse us of ignoring it. Hmmmm.....

In a previous post I stated that I thought it better if the world was united by formal Convention to intrude into the affairs of Sovereign nations AT THE VERY TIME when atrocities such as genocide are taking place. This is not an issue of blame. I don't think it is a "cultural" right or privilege that any country should butcher thousands of innocent citizens with axes and whatever else is to hand.
I think you will have to await the spread of real working democracy on a much wider scale to see this. Dictators do not take kindly to interference with their whims. Ask SH.

"an army of young kids will beat an army of old men"

Damn, we are smart! GREAT ARGUMENT! WE would only get in their way when they are attempting great deeds! You and I will stay home and golf! I will see you on the Floor tomorrow to pass that Bill! Now how many boys can we spare for Country XYZ?

It also helps that they are dumb enough to attempt heroic deeds. Old men know better. This can you KILLED!

Drugs help too.
Dutch courage is a false courage attained by getting drunk, which gives you an idea of what, historically, the British thought of the bravado of the typical Hollander.
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This was more than slightly hypocritical of the English, who made a practice at that time of giving their soldiers and sailors alcohol before battle.

"We've got quite a collection of your former citizens down here"

We like the weather and the women! <g>

YOU LEAVE OUR WOMEN ALONE!

As to the weather, DAMN, I'm glad I'm not Canadian! I don't even like the northern part of the US!
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