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Politics : View from the Center and Left

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To: TimF who wrote (6360)12/8/2005 8:26:15 PM
From: thames_sider  Read Replies (1) of 542152
 
If someone takes money from you by force or threat of force than I think it is properly considered extortion. I think that is the definition of the word. I think that holds true even if they put the money to good use, and even if you would have given over the money had you had a choice.
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I still say its extortion if you don't have a choice.


Well, I guess you can feel free to move to any country that is willing to let you pay only those taxes you choose to pay. And provides to each resident only the services they have chosen to fund.

Er, what, there are none? But surely somewhere there is a country free of extortion, i.e. where no one pays any taxes they themselves don't wish to pay?
Nearest I can think of are those defended and with access limited by a richer and greater power, e.g. the US or EU tax havens. So feel free to move to one. If you can. But these are not applicable general cases, they're boltholes by and for the rich and conscience-free.


You want any collective government? You pay the collective taxes. Or, you go for a pure anarchist state where you pay only what you choose to anybody you choose... just ask any Afghani how well this works.

Or explain why a strong, healthy and ruthless single man with a gun and no dependents should pay any government extortion?
His 4x4 can cross any terrain he meets. He sells crack to willing buyers to pay any bills. If he gets ill and can't pay for care, he'll die, but he's no insurance anyway. Of course, he wants no army defending him - he'll sell to any customer. He wants NO taxes, and anyone trying to demand taxes from him is obviously an extortionist using greater force.

Is that your ideal society man? If not, please explain how he's prevented, without being 'extorted' by someone else's army - since in every single weak state (e.g., much of Africa) this is the dominant class.
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