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To: TimF who wrote (44946)	1/26/2006 6:24:10 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) of 90947

I think you are being silly about this. When you accept without objection the protection of the justice system, it is a priori evidence of your agreement, and it is proof that you are a party to the agreement to the obligations of citizens to live lawfully. I don't say that you have agreed to be lawful--only that you recognize what the Constitutional laws of your country have determined to be lawful and/or unlawful and that you recognise that in choosing to be unlawful you are violating those Constitutional laws or agreements and the authority that derives therefrom. Don't confuse the agreement to be decent and lawful (which I agree you have made no such agreement to be) with a priori acceptance and knowledge of a series of agreements which govern your conduct as a citizen. As a citizen of your country you most assuredly ARE bound and DO agree to abide by the laws which govern that contract. Now, if you are legally capable of repudiating the rights, duties, responsibilities, obligations, and accountabilities which are entailed by your citizenship as an American WITHOUT repudiating that citizenship, then I would consider that you might have an argument that you are under no obligation to comply with your laws...but that you do so only out of good will or fear. Notice I said LEGALLY. I can walk to my bank and tell them that I don't agree that I owe them for the money they lent me, just as you can say that laws passed on your behalf through representative Government don't meet with your "agreement". But I am not using "agreement" as a substitute for "approval". There is a default assumption that you are a citizen in good standing until you prove otherwise. You do not have to explicitly agree to be bound by the laws passed on your behalf by your representatives. But you ARE bound, nevertheless. Because of the Republican form of democracy which you choose to live under, agreements made by representatives who act as proxy for you are deemed to be legally binding agreements as if you had contracted them in person. I don't mean that every person "agrees" with every single law. Even the law makers in Congress do not "agree" on the various laws. But they agree that they are valid and legally binding. So when I say you have an agreement (by proxy)...I do not necessarily mean that you approve of every tittle of the law. I mean that an agreement to respect citizenship is an agreement to respect the Constitution is an agreement to respect the laws that flow therefrom. "When a law is passed I have made no agreement to follow it, respect it, or be bound by it" The idea that nobody is legally bound to respect or obey is anarchy. So long as you remain a citizen of the U.S. of A. you HAVE agreed to be bound by the Constitution--because that implicit agreement IS A CONDITION OF YOUR CITIZENSHIP. You can repudiate that agreement and you will be free (on foreign soil, of course) to DISAGREE...as you call it. I don't know why you would wish to disrespect your agreement to be guaranteed such wonderful rights and liberties--but each to his own.

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