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Politics : View from the Center and Left
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To: JohnM who wrote (9885)1/26/2006 8:29:11 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) of 541520
 
Tim, that describes the structural dilemma any president faces.

Presidents today face it to a greater degree than Clinton and his predecessors did, whether or not they engage in extensive consultation.

Consultation will probably help now just as it did than but the starting point is more difficult now, and consultation might not move things as much as it did than.

I'm not trying to say that consultations are not useful. I think they can be useful. I just don't see them as a panacea, and I don't see that the fact that Bush consulted less (almost not at all) is the only difference that made the votes on the nominees more party line. No level of consultation or even deference to the wishes of the other party would bring votes as lopsided as Scalia's 98 vote for 0 against or Ginsburg's 96-3.

Roberts went through with a larger margin than (78 to 22) than Alito is likely to get but a much smaller one than Scalia or Ginsburg who are both arguably less moderate. Roberts basically got half the Democrats votes, instead of all of their votes (Scalia) or almost all the Republican party's votes (Ginsburg).

You seem to want to assert not just that the level of consultation was a factor, even an important one, but that it is the only important one. I can not agree with that.

Tim
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