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Politics : View from the Center and Left

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To: carranza2 who wrote (12799)2/20/2006 3:07:09 PM
From: JohnM  Read Replies (1) of 541751
 
It's part of a conversation we had over the weekend dealing with Dem failures.

I said, several times, that I rejected the frame "Dem failures." And, for two reasons. In your reply, you said that there were only three Dem presidents in our lifetime, Kennedy, Carter, and Clinton. I noted you had left off Johnson, that if you added his term + back in, you had 5 terms of Dem presidents and 7 of Rep presidents. I also noted, that while that's clearly not 50-50, it's not terrible.

And, I also noted, that the more important thing is the last two elections which were clearly 50-50. My guess is, but I'm not terribly interested in the argument, is that if you compared Bush's margin in 2000 and 2004 with Clinton's over the father in 1992 and over Dole in 1996, Clinton would have had a wider margin.

I also noted, just to remind you about the failure of the "Dem failure" paradigm, that the 50-50 split in 2000 and 2004 came about even with demonstrably weak Dem candidates.

So a frame of "Dem failures" simply doesn't make sense.

I'm not arguing there are no problems with the Dems. I think rather there are problems with both parties at the moment. It is, I suspect, but don't care to dig around in it, the case there are far more problems on the Rep side.
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