SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Politics : WAR on Terror. Will it engulf the Entire Middle East?
SPY 680.59+0.6%Dec 19 4:00 PM EST

 Public ReplyPrvt ReplyMark as Last ReadFilePrevious 10Next 10PreviousNext  
To: Scoobah who wrote (13025)2/23/2006 1:52:26 PM
From: Richnorth  Read Replies (1) of 32591
 
If you really believe that any country that does not take care of her Jewish residents will eventually be "erased" from history, then those Moslem countries that are sworn enemies of Israel should "self-destruct". Not? If you really believe that, why fight. Just sit tight and wait, right?

I think it's a far-fetched idea to suggest the Moslems "created" the holocaust to conquer Europe. Convince me of that long-range plan of the Moslems if you can.

BTW, in its early days, Islam was helpful to the Jews in certain ways. Anyone interested can get a crash course in Jewish History and the Rise of Islam from

aish.com

Those people whose hatred against Moslems in general sprang mainly from 9/11 and from disinformation and propaganda spewed forth by a compliant media will do well to go through the crash course: they will become wiser people, not wise guys.

As Richnorth sees it (and I stand to be corrected), the conflict between the west and Islam began from the time of Islam conquests of parts of Eastern Europe and of southern Spain (via North Africa). Later this east-west conflict was kept alive by the nine Crusades (1095 - 1271) which, however, failed and so Islam remained in its ascendancy until the Moslems'defeat at the naval Battle of Lepanto in 1571. From that time on, Islamic influence in the west went on a steady decline. By this time Europe was already into her Renaissance by about 70 years and since then she has never looked back.

However, the east-west conflict continued with the Ottoman Empire during which Hungary and a few other Eastern European countries were under Ottoman suzerainty. The Ottoman Empire collapsed in 1920 after which the British carved up the Middle East for themselves and exploited the oil wealth of the Arabs for their own benefit. By their rough and cruel treatment of the Arabs as inconsequential subhumans, the colonial masters aroused a lot of resentment and indignation and hatred against themselves.

Then the Zionists, struck by nostalgia to return to the place where their forebears were a long time ago and to call it home, created Israel, with the help of the US and Britain and France, out of some pieces of Palestine. Needless to say, the creation of Israel at the expense of the Arabs, has been responsible for all the unrest in the Middle East we have been seeing today. Israel is seen by the Arabs as a land-robber (until lately, that is) and as an oppressor, and the US as a supporter of Israel whilst exploiting and profiting from the oil wealth of the Arabs.

This east-west conflict rages on with seemingly no end in sight. Will you be so good as to tell me how the conflict could be resolved? With the dismantling of Israel, perhaps?

Now, concerning your suggestion that the Arabs had planned the holocaust in order to conquer Europe, tell me when and how the Arabs planned all that.

From what I read, the Jews during their Diaspora, were initially welcomed in foreign lands. But, as time went on, their set ways and seemingly peculiar practices and insular behaviour antagonized their host people to the point the Jews were eventually treated like pariahs. Prior to and during WWII there was a high concentration of Jews in Nazi Germany. A good number of these Jews were highly talented and successful people and some of them organized Jewish protest groups to assert their rights. However, they were arrested and sent off to concentration camps. What happened to the Jews there is history, albeit moot history to some people.

At this time, the Moslems in the Middle East were under the colonial yoke. How could they have planned the holocaust in order to conquer Europe is as clear as mud to me. Maybe you would good enough to shed some light?
.
Report TOU ViolationShare This Post
 Public ReplyPrvt ReplyMark as Last ReadFilePrevious 10Next 10PreviousNext