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Politics : Israel to U.S. : Now Deal with Syria and Iran

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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (10422)3/22/2006 9:26:07 AM
From: sea_urchin  Read Replies (1) of 22250
 
Gus > I don't fancy the conspiracy theory whereby the Zionists fomented WWI

I think that's far-fetched myself. But, in my opinion, it is credible that they saw an opportunity to force Britain's hand when Britain's back was against the wall in WW1 by bringing the US into the war. Furthermore, they had the necessary means with which to do it, namely, the Zimmerman telegram, the Brandeis connection to Pres Wilson and, more than likely, agents in both the British and German navies, especially the latter. After that, everything which happened was almost by reflex action, one event leading to another and most of the events, in fact, circumstantial.

> the most cynical of the Zionists welcomed Europe's escalating anti-Semitism to the extent that it fitted well into their immigration scheme. We should also keep in mind the Zeitgeist of the time: in the late 19th century, the nation-state was deemed the be-all and end-all of every people.

The fundamental and, indeed, existential question is what a Jew is supposed to "be". Is a Jew a member of a race, a nation in exile, a cult, what? Furthermore, what is the role of the Jewish religion? And because there are many interpretations to those question there are also many answers. Indeed, "the Jewish Question" has been posed and answered since time immemorial.

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> The fact that the whole Zionist enterprise came down to robbing native Arabs from their land wasn't considered an evil at the time: half the world had already been colonized by European settlers --if French Pieds Noirs could lord it over Algeria, why couldn't the Jews in Palestine?

Without any doubt. And don't forget that the "Randlords", who were the ones behind the Anglo-Boer War and the plunder of the gold and diamonds in what became South Africa were, by and large, all Jewish. As everyone knows, theft and imperial conquest were de rigueur in the 19th Century.

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>>The men who flocked to South Africa in search of wealth included Cecil Rhodes, the renowned English capitalist and imperial visionary, and a collection of ambitious Jews who, together with him, were to play a decisive role in fomenting the Boer war.

Barney Barnato, a dapper, vulgar fellow from London's East End (born Barnett Isaacs), was one of the first of many Jews who have played a major role in South African affairs. Through pluck and shrewd maneuvering, by 1887 he presided over an enormous South African financial-business empire of diamonds and gold. In 1888 he joined with his chief rival, Cecil Rhodes, who was backed by the Rothschild family of European financiers, in running the De Beers empire, which controlled all South African diamond production, and thereby 90 percent of the world's diamond output, as well as a large share of the world's gold production.note 3 (In the 20th century, the De Beers diamond cartel came under the control of a German-Jewish dynasty, the Oppenheimers, who also controlled its gold-mining twin, the Anglo-American Corporation. With its virtual world monopoly on diamond production and distribution, and grip on a large part of the world's gold production, the billionaire family has ruled a financial empire of unmatched global importance. It also controlled influential newspapers in South Africa. So great was the Oppenheimers' power and influence in South Africa that it rivaled that of the formal government.)<<
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