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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
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To: michael97123 who wrote (183967)3/23/2006 10:42:48 AM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (1) of 281500
 
I think they are talking mostly about promoting democratic reform etc thru force and perhaps they would say without regard to more traditional definitions of national interest.

As opposed to how the folks who don't believe in democracy are perfectly content to promote THEIR beliefs through force?

Did we achieve our democracy and independence from England by "hugging" the redcoats and royal loyalists?

No.. we used force..

I don't have a problem with the use of force and violent struggle, SO LONG as the goal is that people are fighting for the individuals rights of not just themselves, but also to preserve the rights of their rivals, under a mutually agreed upon rule of law.

Pacifism might ultimately win against tyranny, and I'm fine with peaceful political resistance. But the cost in lives will often be far higher. And peaceful disobediance is going to mean little to any government that is not worried about domestic, or international, accountability. They'll merely massacre anyone who participates, which will quickly intimidate everyone else.

The bottom line is that there is going to continue to be blood spilled in the Arab world (and quite a few other places), some of it American, and most of it Arab. The question is how much blood will be spilled by Americans in the future if we do nothing to prevent the bloodbath that will occur is Islamo-Fascists are able to dominate Iraq.

Hawk
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