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To: epicure who wrote (1141)3/31/2006 12:29:22 PM
From: Sully-  Read Replies (1) of 14758
 
Heh! Heh! Of course you would rely on a blatantly misleading MSM report that intentionally neglects to report on the plethora of contrary credible evidence from the newly released documents that adds to the proof that Saddam;

- had WMD's,

- had WMD Programs that he was actively improving & hiding from UN Inspectors &

- financed, harbored, trained & worked with multiple terrorist organizations, including Al Qaeda.

Although I know you will not read the following nor follow the links, I will provide you with a sample of the evidence released thus far. You can & most likely will dismiss & ignore it as it thoroughly destroys your now firmly entrenched alternate world view. BDS seems to have that affect on libs.

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The Saddam Tapes
'The Factories Are In Our Minds'
Message 22172884

The Saddam Tapes
     Charles Duelfer, who led the official U.S. search for
weapons of mass destruction after the war, says the tapes
show extensive deception but don't prove that weapons
were still hidden in Iraq at the time of the U.S.-led war
in 2003. "What they do is support the conclusion in the
report, which we made in the last couple of years, that
the regime had the intention of building and rebuilding
weapons of mass destruction, when circumstances permitted."
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=22174649

"WHERE WAS THE NUCLEAR material transported to?" asks an aide to Saddam Hussein, in a taped conversation released last week. He answers his own question: "A number of them were transported out of Iraq.".... The tapes are authentic. And they are seemingly of little interest to the U.S. government....
Message 22183631

....12 hours of conversations ....in which Saddam discusses how to conceal Iraqi weapons programs from U.N. inspectors and the possibility that the United States could be the target of terrorist attacks....
Message 22185978

"Saddam Had WMD"
...Saddam talks openly of programs involving biological, chemical and, yes, nuclear weapons. ...
Message 22210014

....As Hayes points out, Iraqi documents that have recently been translated indicate that Russia was training Iraqi intelligence agents virtually up to the outbreak of the war in 2003.....
Message 22250546

Tapes reveal WMD plans by Saddam
Message 22257522

     So Iraqi intelligence conducted "covert offensive
operations" involving "poisons" as well as explosives,
carried out "sabotage and assassination" outside of Iraq,
and trained agents in "the use of terror techniques"
abroad. Not bad for a single eight-page document.
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=22268851

Iraq Papers: Al-Qaeda In Iraq In 2002 In Recruitment Drive
Message 22268948

Declassified Truth
     "The Eight Directorate is responsible for development of
materials needed for covert offensive operations. It
contains advanced laboratories for testing and production
of weapons, poisons and explosives."
It goes on. Directorate 9, we discover,
     "is one of the most important directorates in the
Mukhabarat. Most of its work is outside Iraq in
coordination with other directorates, focusing on
operations of sabotage and assassination."
The document also discusses the Mukhabarat's Office 16, set up to train "agents for clandestine operations abroad." The document helpfully adds that "special six-week courses in the use of of terror techniques are provided at a camp in Radwaniyhah."
Message 22272068

ABC News Says Hussein May Have Worked With Terrorists, bin Laden
Message 22272076

Saddam's Philippines Terror Connection
...A SECOND internal Iraqi file ... concerns relations between Iraqi Intelligence and Saudi opposition groups... including Mr. bin Laden's organization...
Message 22275573

     The Saddam Fedayeen also took part in the regime's
domestic terrorism operations and planned for attacks
throughout Europe and the Middle East. In a document
dated May 1999, Saddam's older son, Uday, ordered
preparations for "special operations, assassinations, and
bombings, for the centers and traitor symbols in London,
Iran and the self-ruled areas [Kurdistan]." Preparations
for "Blessed July," a regime-directed wave of "martyrdom"
operations against targets in the West, were well under
way at the time of the coalition invasion.
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=22275573

That doesn't sound like a man who had discarded his nuclear program
Message 22275718

     While it would be a mistake to put too much weight on any
single document, the Mukhabarat's seeming endorsement of
FAS's description of its activities would appear to
confirm, among other things, Iraq's production of poisons
for use in "covert offensive operations," and its training
of terrorists for "clandestine operations abroad."...
...The Special Operations (14th) Directorate, located in Salman Pak 20 km south-east of Baghdad, is one of the most important and largest in Mukhabarat. This directorate undertakes the most secret and sensitive special operations outside the country. They were responsible for the attempted assassination against President Bush, and the assassination of Talib Al Suheil. It conducts joint operations with the Mujahideen Khalq Organization, and undertakes training of specially selected officers for this type of operation....
...The Salman Pak facility, by the way, is the one that had a passenger airplane used to train terrorists in airplane hijacking techniques....
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=22275880

     Why was Iraqi intelligence fearful of a "foreign attack"
in December 2001? Why was the agency so intent on
preventing its documents from being captured by an enemy
in the event that Baghdad fell?
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=22283149

SADDAM: Are you talking about the Biological Program...?

...LIEUTENANT GENERAL ‘AMIR: There are grounds for that, but there are no credible grounds left for the Chemical Program and missiles. However, there are grounds for the Biological Program.... we have won Russia, ahhh … we have convinced Russia by way of generous accounts [payoffs] in which, you remember how and why it happened …...

...COMRADE HUSAYN:... They [UN Inspectors] have a bigger problem with the Chemical program than the Biological program, a lot bigger than the Biological program. It is not the weapons, the size of the imported material, the size of [UNINTELLIGIBLE] that we presented to them or the size of the stockpile. They knew that not all of this was true. We have not told them that we used it on Iran, nor have we told them about the size or kind of Chemical weapons that we produced, and we have not told them the truth about the imported material. Therefore, sir, if they want to raise an issue, I mean, they will see that our argument is the issue of the Biological program....
...Again sir, about the Biological and the Chemical programs, we disagree with them but not about the 17 [UNINTELLIGIBLE] Sir, this is the big issue. Some of our teams are working in one direction where another team does not know that they are working above in the same direction. Therefore, they could find it out if they wanted to. The … the reason they know about it is, that we imported a quantity from America and we imported a quantity from Europe. However, we did not come forth with the quantities. Sir, therefore, [UNINTELLIGIBLE] a problem we must pay attention to, that [UNINTELLIGIBLE] have a new relation with agents [representatives] to keep silent? No sir, I disagree. Sir, about the Nuclear program, we say that we have uncovered everything. In addition, we have an unannounced problem with the Nuclear program, and I think they know about it. I mean, there is working teams that are working and some of these teams are not known to anyone...
....Sir, getting back to the subject, are we uncovering everything? If we continue to be silent about the issue at hand, I must say that it is in our best interest not to uncover it, not only in fear of exposing the technology that we have or that we possess or to hide it for future agendas....
Message 22283195

     IIS [Iraqi intelligence] report on Kurdish activities,
mention of Kurdish reporting on Al Qaida, reference to Al
Qaida presence in Salman Pak.
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=22287641

ABCNews: Released Documents Show Exploration of bin Ladin/Hussein Alliance
....the document claims bin Laden was proposing to the Iraqis that they conduct "joint operations against foreign forces" in Saudi Arabia, is interesting to note that eight months after the meeting — on November 13, 1995 — terrorists attacked Saudi National Guard Headquarters in Riyadh, killing 5 U.S. military advisors. The militants later confessed on Saudi TV to having been trained by Osama bin Laden....
Message 22288235

What the captured documents show
....The documents further disclose that the Iraqi intelligence service issued detailed instructions to directors and managers of weapons sites regarding UN inspections. They were to remove files from computers,
     "remove correspondence with the atomic energy and
military industry departments concerning the prohibited
weapons" and "remove prohibited materials and equipment,
including documents and catalogs and making sure to clear
labs and storages (sic) of any traces of chemical or
biological materials that were previously used or stored..."
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=22290927

     [O]n the eve of the U.S.-led invasion....  details of a
U.S. plan for war.... was disclosed to the Iraqis by the
Russian ambassador....
    [T]he Russian ambassador was Vladimir Teterenko -- the
same Teterenko that figured in the Oil-For-Food scandal...
....received over a million dollars in oil allocations
from Saddam Hussein.
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=22291010

Russians hid from UN inspectors in Iraq
....Note this is [written] within four months of the start of the war and.... has Russian experts hiding from U.N. teams....
Message 22294331

More on Saddam and bin Laden
...the 9/11 Report.... states... Bin Ladin asked for and received bomb making assistance from an Iraqi Intelligence bomb making specialist present at the meeting....
Message 22291781

...A former Democratic senator and 9/11 commissioner says a recently declassified Iraqi account of a 1995 meeting between Osama bin Laden and a senior Iraqi envoy presents a "significant set of facts," and shows a more detailed collaboration between Iraq and Al Qaeda....
Message 22292305

Jihad TV - Newly released documents identify the man bin Laden wanted on Iraqi television.
Message 22294319

"Blessed July" - One of the Saddam documents details orders for an extensive terrorist operation
Message 22294321

Who's Lying Now?
Message 22294361

... IIS [Iraqi intelligence] report on Kurdish activities, mention of Kurdish reporting on Al Qaida, reference to Al Qaida presence in Salman Pak...
...A representative of the Communist Party accused the Iraqi government of hiding elements of the organization of Al-Qaeda in the region of Salman Pak, plus elements of the Turkish Workers Party and the Iranian Mujahideen Khalq and that they were studying the use of chemical weapons and whether Iraq will use them in case of....
Message 22302964

Choosing Ignorance - The New York Times finally acknowledges the Saddam documents--if only to dismiss them.
...An internal Iraqi Intelligence memo that Bergen describes as "one of the most credible documents," and was first reported by the Times in 2004, suggests that a better question is: "Why did Saddam help al Qaeda?" According to the document, Saddam Hussein personally approved bin Laden's request--made in a face-to-face meeting with Iraqi intelligence--to rebroadcast al Qaeda's anti-Saudi propaganda on Iraqi airwaves....
...The letter between two al Qaeda terrorists (of apparently high rank) makes several references to connections between the Islamists and Iraq. One passage notes that bin Laden's chief deputy, Ayman al Zawahiri, "went to Iraq and Iran" seeking support....
....The day after the 9/11 report was released, Commissioner John Lehman offered this prophetic warning...
     "There may well be--and probably will be--additional
intelligence coming in from interrogations and from
analysis of captured records and so forth which will fill
out the intelligence picture. This is not phrased as, nor
meant to be, the definitive word on Iraqi Intelligence
activities."
...As U.S. News & World Report first reported, one high-ranking Iraqi military official told U.S. interrogators that the Iraqi regime provided Zawahiri with $300,000 in 1998. Former Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi claimed to have seen documents showing that Zawahiri had been in Iraq for a gathering of Islamists in 1999. Allawi was recently back on the front pages of U.S. newspapers with his claim that Iraq was in the midst of a civil war, but the American media has showed far less interest in his oft-repeated claims that Iraq was supporting al Qaeda....
...It would be nice to know more. Unless, of course, you're The New York Times.
Message 22305228
Message 22306123

...A reader calls our attention to another of the audio tape recordings from Saddam Hussein's office....
...This one suggests that the Russians have been paid off...
...We have succeeded in a few of the U.N. paragraphs, we have won Russia, ahhh ... we have convinced Russia by way of generous accounts [payoffs], in which, you remember how and why it happened...
Message 22307165

Iraq-Libya Nuclear Connection?
...Sir, where was the Nuclear material transported to? A number of them were transported outside of Iraq...
Message 22307221
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