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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices
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To: Road Walker who wrote (282687)4/4/2006 4:44:40 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) of 1573894
 
Ok, if you are willing to change the discussion... more money comes into the government from specific taxes for SS and Medicare than is dispersed. I would call that a subsidy to the government from the middle class. (Remember the "unified budget").

The spending is a subsidy to the middle class. The taxes are how its funded. If they got rid of the taxes or if they increased them 10 fold it wouldn't change the nature of the subsidy.

You can talk about the net subsidy that an individual receives, if you get subsidized X, and penalized 2 X then you don't receive a net subsidy. But a strong majority of social security recipients get more than they every put in. The taxes produce bring in more money then the cost of the program because more people are taxed than receive benefits.

At the same time the government is giving huge tax breaks to corporate interests. And the "only" definition of these tax breaks are subsides. It is what it is. The rest is just you trying to fit the semantics to your POV.

Taking less from you, isn't giving to you. The net flow is still from the company to the government assuming that the company does not get any actual subsidies.

Of course a number of them do receive subsidies from the government. Agricultural subsidies, research subsidies, "overseas market development subsidies" ect.
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