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Politics : Rat's Nest - Chronicles of Collapse

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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (3814)4/7/2006 12:21:01 AM
From: Wharf Rat  Read Replies (2) of 24213
 
Thur's open thread on the oil drum...

Typhoon on Thu Apr 06 at 3:24 PM EST
Gasoline for May delivery got above $2.00 per gallon on the NYMEX today. The RBOB contract is trading at a substantial premium to that. How concerned is everyone about gasoline supply this summer? The recent drawdowns worry me. And is there enough ethanol to replace MTBE?
Robert Rapier on Thu Apr 06 at 5:47 PM EST
There is a reasonable concern about localized shortages. If you are in an area that is phasing out MTBE for ethanol, you are at a higher risk of a shortage. Supply is one problem, but we are planning on importing ethanol from Brazil. But logistics is another. Ethanol has to be trucked or railed in and mixed at the terminal. MTBE can be mixed at the refinery and shipped in the pipeline.
These factors, combined with low sulfur gasoline coming online (which has reduced gasoline imports due to the inability of some suppliers to meet specs), as well as the transition to summer blends (less supply there as well) are a recipe for a very tight supply situation this summer. Gasoline inventories continue to be drawn down, and prices will have to rise until inventories stabilize.

RR
theoildrum.com

+ a bit more...

I am a big fan of single-shot weapons. One shot, one kill.
Also, they are cheap.

BB and pellet guns are good for training and some can be used effectively to hunt for little critters.

.22 long rife excellent, and ammo keeps for several decades if kept cool and dry--always have a few 500 round "bricks."

.410 is good for running rabbits etc., and with slug more effective on big game than .44 magnum in handgun. Can get combo guns, .22 long-rifle over .410, good value, very handy, easy for small women and young people to handle.

.223 good for longer ranges, little recoil

Do not waste ammo on elderly Republican lawyers;-) Meat is tough and stringy.

IMO handguns are relatively ineffective compared to long guns, and they require constant training to maintain proficiency--a waste of money.

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Don Sailorman on Thu Apr 06 at 11:26 PM EST
Good info, but pricey.
I'd emphasize water, and also a multi-purpose tool such as the Woodman's Pal (not cheap but of excellent quality, and time-tested for more than sixty years).

In regard to weapons for personal security, without extensive training they are worse than useless. My inclination is to rely mostly on highly trained friends and relatives, and also useful multipurpose tools such as an axe or a machete.

Shovels and entrenching tools are very good to have.

Do not forget large quantities of toilet paper, especially if you have a lot of females in the family. High quality paper towels are also very good to have in quantity.

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CreoleGenius on Thu Apr 06 at 11:52 PM EST
Don Sailorman;
You are the first other person I've seen who has brought up acquisitions
of the most valuble commodity. Toilet paper is MONEY! Any person truly serious about preparations has already stored mass quantities of TPBUs
(toilet paper barter units). A single BU will one day purchase a meal or a gallon of gas. Why?, you say. Because toilet paper is the most addictive substance known to modern man. And who, do you say, is so addicted that they will trade other very valuable commodities for a single, two-ply,
extra absorbent roll? White women. Toilet paper is more addicitve than tobacco, more addictive than air conditioning, more necessary than booze.
White women will eventually sell their bodies for rolls, because their senses
of propriety and vanity will overwhelm their need to eat. I have stored over 1.5K BUTP. Build yourself a nice metal shed and fill it up. The stuff lasts forever, at least until its been used!
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