First thing, wobbly boy, I don't allow your kind of pretentious argument on MY thread. You can put any words you want in the mouths of fools on the rest of the fool threads in SI, but you can't do that here. This is no democracy, thank god.
As for:
So let's see what you disagree with that I am stating:
I said: To be sure, many individual Chinese are more aggressively capitalistic than the vast majority of westerners. So your position is that a vast majority of westerners are more capitalistic than the Chinese capitalists. OK
I don't get it, that is, I don't get how you reach this conclusion. I don't even understand it. For the record, my position as I stated is that natural conditions in China force all Chinese to be more capitalistic than any westerners where in the West there's nothing but constraints on capitalism, that is, if capitalism exists at all.
I asserted that: the vast majority of Chinese are still living an agrarian subsistence lifestyle and therefore, the truly addressable market in China is about the same size as the U.S.
This claim is exactly equivalent to the claim made in 1900 in the US that no one would want to buy autos or washing machines since the vast majority of Americans were still living an agrarian subsistence lifestyle. A few robber barons and capitalist pigs decided that that was bs. These days that would be considered anti-competitive in the US.
You seem to think that this is false, but some very simply studying of the facts, or a trip to the provinces that are not near the coast would be all that is needed for you to discover the truth.
The only relevant truth for you is the Chinese will bury the US and they will do it because they practice free market capitalism while the US practices ever greater socialism.
I stated: They dangle those 1.25 billion potential customers in front of us and we geek on foolish deals that will never be profitable. You disagree and think that they are using guilt.
You have poor reading comprehension. You should try to understand what I did say, because if you don't get it, you'll just be bagged, again.
Anybody who has done business in China knows that the population of China is used to leverage pricing every single time.
Leverage pricing? That sounds like the university bs where they invent abstractions which can't work in the real world. The population of China is used to leverage pricing? I simply can't decompose this sentence to make it coherent.
I stated: That the Chinese government is subsidizing every aspect of the economy and used telecom as an example.
For the record you said:
There are many people in the U.S. and even right here on SI who support the U.S. Government building out the broadband network so that everyone has fiber to the home. The idea being that this would stimulate the U.S. economy. I disagree with this as I consider it to be a socialistic policy (and as an extension, will be done less efficiently and will have long term negative effects). This is *exactly* that the Chinese government is doing in the major cities. And since the major cities get this telecom buildout, so do the rest of the provinces.
1. Infrastructure building can't be claimed to "stimulate" economy. The stimulative effect of such building is fully consumed in its cost. The net benefit arises in the free market capitalism that it enables or supports, that is, as long as one has free market capitalism using the facilities(and thereby will have the wherewithal to maintain them).
2. Infrastructure building doesn't have the purpose of stimulating economy.
3. Infrastructure building isn't socialistic. You really do need to either understand the society around you or go back to some school to learn what socialism is.
4. Infrastructure building is offered in most cases to open bidding by free market capitalist entities and so is built to the most efficient standards.
This is *exactly* what the Chinese government is doing. They're enabling their capitalists to bury the US.
You are taxed for things like roads and sewers. Telecom is like roads and sewers whether it's in the US or in China. That isn't an issue for free market capitalism. Better figure out the difference.
You disagree that the Chinese government is subsidizing the economy...ummm, ok...LOL
Ummm, ok , lol, please tell me what kind of an illiterate are you?
All that matters is if I bring home the purchase order and that the money gets deposited in the bank.
This is why I said you couldn't compete against me because I was hammered on the anvil of capitalism while you're hammered into the shape of a slave. If you owned your own business, the emphasis has to go on what is delivered, not on compensation. Compensation becomes incidental, not primary. What I mean is that one has to concentrate on service, not on money.
I have been successful at this for some time.
You don't know that. Your success hasn't been stressed tested. Run your own show. If you survive, then you can tell me all about your success.
I know that you would be an abject failure at my job because you would not be able to conceal your contempt for every person that isn't as smart as you (at least in your eyes).
It is you who has the contempt, but you can't see it. Further, you can't serve others unless you have contempt for them. Since you can't comprehend that, you're doomed to the myth of your success.
You are a fool if you think that every Chinese person is an aggressive capitalist that can stomp on every westerner in every business situation.
I'm no fool to recognize the obvious fact that China is default free market capitalist while you operate under protectionism. Your success comes from that protectionism. You can't compete in the real world.
Even in the modern cities, the vast majority of people are simple middle class people just trying to make a living, just like me. I may not be a "god", but as a slob, I am damn good at what I do.
You don't know what you are, and the above ambiguity shows it. This is what comes in a society that's confused about its social economic philosophy, the outcome of Samuelson's "mixed economy", "a little socialism a little capitalism and everyone is happy".
And your inability to see your own flaws is the reason you are pissing around with us slobs on an internet website, rather than traveling in the rarefied air with the real gods.
I see you're a true believer in the gods and the slobs. It's all about us against them, adversarialism that comes from material alienation. I'd call your problem pure envy, typical of a person poor in spirit. I constructed the gods and slobs to bag suckers like you, and that guilt bagging is exactly what I meant when I said your guilt from material alienation that comes from having a little would be used by the Chinese to bury you. |
