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Non-Tech : Alternative energy

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To: gg cox who wrote (3000)4/26/2006 10:47:07 PM
From: Bid Buster  Read Replies (1) of 16955
 
Even I was saddened by the end of the EV1...but life goes on.

<can you imagine what GM would have today... in an all electric if they had stuck with it...instead of pie in the sky foolishness, hydrogen fuel cell dreams...they would be miles ahead of Honda and Toyota and not fighting off bankruptcy.>

I totally agree....

<see you are not impressed with regenerative braking...it seems the large auto companies are...because they are all going that way.>

No, I am not, real world gains don't outway the complexity of the system.
IMO its more marketing because the average consumer thinks its worth it.

<Have I read word for word the Prius warantee....No...but this is fairly close..

<<<The Prius has an 8-yr./100,000-mi. warranty on the battery and hybrid systems, plus a three-year/36,000-mile warranty on everything else. The electric motors and batteries don't require maintenance over the life of the vehicle....>>>>

I guess you haven't heard about the dealer warranty denials for battery claims due to running low or out of fuel with the stance that it is considered owner abuse.
However its not uncommon for dealers to try to weasel out of warranty claims no matter what the failure, they don't call em stealerships for nothing.

<see you did not address this..

~~~Your assumtion of 100 miles per day is just that...the EV2 was getting 150 miles per charge with ancient lead acids 8 years ago.Think of the power saved by an all electric...repeat..no transmission,drive axels, differentials, alternator,water pump,power steering pump and related hydralics to steering rake, rad and related hoses etc and the required power to drive them???...also no fluids for transmission, diff's,powersteering,cooling system and no maintaince for all these sub systems~~>

Since the EV is a dead horse why are we beating it?

On the other hand a lot of electronic components are involved so failures would tend to be electronic vs mechanical.
And the range you quote is not all that typical, one can go a 1000 miles if the down hill slope is long enough.

A couple of new points I'd like to bring up is lets assume battery life to be 10 years.
What will be the intrinsic value of a 10 year old vehicle that needs a $4000 battery bank?

And second what about the Prius sudden stalling issue that has been going on for the last couple of years that TSB# EG047-04 has attempted to address with limited success by an ECM flash?

Do you think its still a software issue or could it be hardware?
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